USA Jet for Sale

[pilotyip]

Money would be one reason

International wide body, main deck cargo.

I do believe another company based at YIP that was operating turbine Beech 18's in the not too distant past now operates 747-400's.

Great idea if you have $35M in the bank from a sale to KHC. I was at the auction and watched Connie buy his airline back at 10 cents on the dollar. BTW besides Connie how many int'l wide body operators have hit it big. Omni? Gemni? Polar? Tower?

 

[pilotyip]

missed some

Jay W from Skybus?

Let me get this right....

President..... Skyway... Bankrupt
DO.....Kitty Hawk.... Bankrupt
New manager Jay W.... Skybus... Bankrupt

3 Failures = 1 Success

You left out FT ex EAL BK, RC ex KHC BK, RH, Zantop fold, BTW Am I detecting negative vibes? They will eat you up if you spend too much time thinking about it. You have to move on.

 

[Way2Broke]

I am simply stating that it seems you have to be part of one sunk ship to move onto another company these days. It would be nice if people were leaving to obtain new jobs at another carrier based upon lucrative incentives at another company instead of being forced to look for work because of the elimination of your carrier or position. This holds true for pilots and management. With that said, if I go out and crash a plane and I am released the chances are that my next job isn't going to be as good as my last one. This isn't the case for airline CEOs. No bad blood, but if you don't learn from the past your doomed to repeat it.

 

[Redmeat]

Great idea if you have $35M in the bank from a sale to KHC. I was at the auction and watched Connie buy his airline back at 10 cents on the dollar. BTW besides Connie how many int'l wide body operators have hit it big. Omni? Gemni? Polar? Tower?

He started out in the wide body business on his own dime operating 200's forming American International Airways and found a nimrod to buy him out.

Then he got a double whammy by being able to buy some of the assets back when said nimrod went Tango Uniform.

That's called good business. It's not luck, something your company could learn from.

The other big player companies you list I would guess have a MUCH higher cost structure from the bottom floor sweeper to the top pilot...and from the errand runner to the Senior Manager.

Active Aero came from roots that had the same essential assets and base to do exactly the same and be successful.

Hell Murray is still doing good witha handful of Dc-8's...

 

[pilotyip]

Come help us.

Active Aero came from roots that had the same essential assets and base to do exactly the same and be successful.

Hell Murray is still doing good witha handful of Dc-8's...

If you have all the answers, how come you are not a CEO? Rasie some money come rescue us from our present situation

 

[landlover]

pilotyip aji is hiring, you can come and swing my gear!

 

[pilotyip]

Nope this is my last job

pilotyip aji is hiring, you can come and swing my gear!

Retirement is the next step for me, fly the "Warbirds" on the air show circuit, flight instruct, and maybe some consulting on the side. However if you want me to swing gear next year, I would love to for $500/day plus expenses. About the same as I would have made as a DA-20 Captain at USA Jet for working an extra day.

 

[pilotyip]

If Porky is right

Yep, thats right folks. USA JET the once mighty cargo company is selling not only the parked aircraft but also the currently flying aircraft. CH wants out of the cargo biz and has talked the investors into it. Current aircraft for sale include:

1. All the Falcon 20's
2. All the parked DC-9s
3. N327US and N196US
4. The Main Hangar is also up for sale/lease

It looks like we have until the end of the year before the doors close so update your resume and make plenty of copies.

If Porky is right everyone might be unemployed by Christmas. So if you believe in Porky you better take the next job that comes along. If Porky is wrong you could be making a bad move, but who would make a career move on a guy who hides behind the name of a pig? BTW pilotyip is Randy Hotton in case you do not know.

 

[TWA]

you can come and swing my gear!

Whatever floats your boat man. uke:

 

[100-1/2]

I have done some work for Active Aero over the years.

They used to pay just over 30 days and weren't my favorite customer. Last year this stretched to 45 days to pay and I would only use them for empty repositioning. Recently, seemingly commensurate with the DA20 layoffs, this stretched to OVER 60 days payment for services rendered and I totally discontinued pursuit of their business because of the way they handled DA20 drivers.

I guess my main competitors in C300/400 running bottom of the barrel pricing for volume quit flying as much for AA as I now get more flying and at higher pricing than I could have previously.

Either Royal is too strapped to recoup 60 days payment from AA against their smaller margins or they, like a vulture are awaiting the final proverbial nail to swoop in January09 to take over AA's clients without the the overhead from buying AA outright. Curious.

What is the best DA20 they have? Any idea on AFTT, Engine Conditions, Avionics and other details, I should have to take to the bank? Are they even worthy of consideration?

100-1/2

 

[LR25]

what would they have diverified into?, besides pax ops and gov't contracting?

Those should have been the questions asked a few years ago. Like alot of people, I believe they could have gone alot farther with some of the talent that USAJ possesed, but know one seemed to pull the trigger, or really even cared to.

There were plenty of guys on hand that "if" they were to try the wide body market for instance, they probobly would have flourished, even in todays environment. But they would rather try to fill a DA-20 with a few bumpers.

Its really too bad, because there are alot of hard working people that would have taken the challenge, and probobly would of had great success.

 

[Gearmonkey]

What is the best DA20 they have? Any idea on AFTT, Engine Conditions, Avionics and other details, I should have to take to the bank? Are they even worthy of consideration?

100-1/2

I've heard they aren't really worth it. A mechanic I talked to today even said he thought that Grande Air's Falcons were in better shape. Yikes!

 

[aerobat]

Funny we just hired a Director of Outstations, Jay W. to set up airport handling for heavy pax flying for one of our contracts.

"Funny"... I'm sure W2B is just rollicking in laughter at the humor in that... He's outta work, yet another "Director" level salary is brought in..?? Ha ha, I get it now...

 

[McNugget]

I bid $20

Tight-wad! I bid $30!

 

[WabiSabi]

I've heard they aren't really worth it. A mechanic I talked to today even said he thought that Grande Air's Falcons were in better shape. Yikes!

Is that Grand Aire's Mexican sister company?