US Airways to start accepting apps.

[weasel_lips]

USAirways = a HUGE gamble

What's the estimated upgrade time again with all of the furloughees out there??????? No thanks.

Yea, your E145 gig is as secure as it gets.

 

[Axel]

This could not be more false. How do national news anchors or even local television/radio announcers talk? It sure as hell isn't like a southerner.

Is this you? ---> http://knowyourmeme.com/i/29398/original/Iareseriouscat.jpg

 

[ackattacker]

USAirways = a HUGE gamble

What's the estimated upgrade time again with all of the furloughees out there??????? No thanks.

You appear to have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[LearLove]

here is some info from the bid that just closed for July 2011.

total flying positions - 2660

total CA - 1231
total FO - 1429 (1377 filled)

open FO positions - 52


Breakdown [base:equipment - #ca/#fo]

CLT:767/757 - 61/92
CLT:A330 - 39/71
CLT:A319/320/321 - 363/358 and 14 open FO positions
CLT:737 - 150/150

DCA:A319/320/321 - 86/76 and 9 open FO positions
DCA:737 - 38/38 and 1 open FO position

PHL:767/757 - 103/145
PHL:A330 - 84/170
PHL:737 - 50/46
PHL:A319/320/321 - 179/172 and 5 open FO positions
PHL:E190 - 78/59 and 23 open FO positions

 

[LearLove]

I think the east fleet is 220 aircraft. 205 airbus/boeing and 15 e190's.

2660/220 = 12.09 pilots/aircraft

 

[freeflyer14]

Anyone have the retirement numbers by year?

 

[Crzipilot]

Since no one can do a search. Here ya go. Close as you will probably find. Add 5 to the years to adjust for age 65 retirement. Also, obviously in the earlier years, some of those numbers may be lower as some guys have already left or medical out.

Airways retirement numbers, East and West pilot groups. Of those that were active 3/1/06:

Yr. East West

08 143 46

09 185 47

10 163 52

11 191 44

12 214 65

13 220 51

14 231 71

15 206 69

16 185 68

17 159 66

18 162 85

19 112 78

20 113 88

21 73 90

22 57 94

23 18 77

24 10 92

25 1 94


Year 2025 equals 100% of US East pilots retired that were active on the seniority list as of 3/1/2006. After 2025 there are still 25% of the West list remaining, or about 500 pilots with the last one retireing in 2039.

Of the recent recalls to the east side, There will be a smattering increase of retirement numbers through the years. If everyone had accepted recall, the youngest pilot on the seniority list would have retired in 2035. Still 4 years before the youngest America West guy. Kinda of hard to pull the numbers out, but looking at the East retirements, including those on furloughed, the numbers look like this.

Yr East

08 177

09 232

10 194

11 246

12 267

13 283

14 289

15 289

16 292

17 255

18 261

19 209

20 222

21 168

22 165

23 148

24 118

25 97

26 103

27 109

28 69

29 68

30 62

31 47

32 27

33 15

34 4

35 4

 

[Dan Roman]

Everyone has to start somewhere. Not all of us are able to get hired and retire at our first choice. And so often what looked good when you started turns to crap 10-15 years down the road. You never know if you made the right call til you retire...

Well said, UAL was considered by many as as one of the most promising jobs around in the 90's. Late 80's, early 90's CO was probably thought by most as the worst choice for employment. Braniff was once considered a great job as was PanAm. SWA was once pretty low on most pilots choice of a career. Aloha used to be considered a much better choice than Hawaiian by some. Peidmont and USAir used to be considered one of the better jobs in the industry and they were certainly one of the financially strongest. I remember PeopleExpress being described as having one of the four brightest futures of all the airlines Etc Etc.
You just don't know. My sense is the legacies that are left will all survive or merge. There are too few left for anyone to liquidate (although I remember telling my wife in 2000 that I thought the airline industry would be way less volatile in the 2000's than in the 90's!)

 

[On Your Six]

Yes, but the East pilots will always have the stigma of being dishonorable. They agreed as a group to binding arbitration, knowing that things might not go their way. Anyone wishing to interview there may be grouped in with those dishonorable people should they get hired.


OYS

 

[Crzipilot]

OYS, yup.....that progressive connection definitely makes sense. And you wonder why......

Keep this on topic ehh'?