US Airways to start accepting apps.

[weasel_lips]

USAirways = a HUGE gamble

What's the estimated upgrade time again with all of the furloughees out there??????? No thanks.

Yea, your E145 gig is as secure as it gets.

 

[Axel]

This could not be more false. How do national news anchors or even local television/radio announcers talk? It sure as hell isn't like a southerner.

Is this you? ---> http://knowyourmeme.com/i/29398/original/Iareseriouscat.jpg

 

[ackattacker]

USAirways = a HUGE gamble

What's the estimated upgrade time again with all of the furloughees out there??????? No thanks.

You appear to have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[LearLove]

here is some info from the bid that just closed for July 2011.

total flying positions - 2660

total CA - 1231
total FO - 1429 (1377 filled)

open FO positions - 52


Breakdown [base:equipment - #ca/#fo]

CLT:767/757 - 61/92
CLT:A330 - 39/71
CLT:A319/320/321 - 363/358 and 14 open FO positions
CLT:737 - 150/150

DCA:A319/320/321 - 86/76 and 9 open FO positions
DCA:737 - 38/38 and 1 open FO position

PHL:767/757 - 103/145
PHL:A330 - 84/170
PHL:737 - 50/46
PHL:A319/320/321 - 179/172 and 5 open FO positions
PHL:E190 - 78/59 and 23 open FO positions

 

[LearLove]

I think the east fleet is 220 aircraft. 205 airbus/boeing and 15 e190's.

2660/220 = 12.09 pilots/aircraft

 

[freeflyer14]

Anyone have the retirement numbers by year?

 

[Crzipilot]

Since no one can do a search. Here ya go. Close as you will probably find. Add 5 to the years to adjust for age 65 retirement. Also, obviously in the earlier years, some of those numbers may be lower as some guys have already left or medical out.

Airways retirement numbers, East and West pilot groups. Of those that were active 3/1/06:

Yr. East West

08 143 46

09 185 47

10 163 52

11 191 44

12 214 65

13 220 51

14 231 71

15 206 69

16 185 68

17 159 66

18 162 85

19 112 78

20 113 88

21 73 90

22 57 94

23 18 77

24 10 92

25 1 94


Year 2025 equals 100% of US East pilots retired that were active on the seniority list as of 3/1/2006. After 2025 there are still 25% of the West list remaining, or about 500 pilots with the last one retireing in 2039.

Of the recent recalls to the east side, There will be a smattering increase of retirement numbers through the years. If everyone had accepted recall, the youngest pilot on the seniority list would have retired in 2035. Still 4 years before the youngest America West guy. Kinda of hard to pull the numbers out, but looking at the East retirements, including those on furloughed, the numbers look like this.

Yr East

08 177

09 232

10 194

11 246

12 267

13 283

14 289

15 289

16 292

17 255

18 261

19 209

20 222

21 168

22 165

23 148

24 118

25 97

26 103

27 109

28 69

29 68

30 62

31 47

32 27

33 15

34 4

35 4

 

[Dan Roman]

Everyone has to start somewhere. Not all of us are able to get hired and retire at our first choice. And so often what looked good when you started turns to crap 10-15 years down the road. You never know if you made the right call til you retire...

Well said, UAL was considered by many as as one of the most promising jobs around in the 90's. Late 80's, early 90's CO was probably thought by most as the worst choice for employment. Braniff was once considered a great job as was PanAm. SWA was once pretty low on most pilots choice of a career. Aloha used to be considered a much better choice than Hawaiian by some. Peidmont and USAir used to be considered one of the better jobs in the industry and they were certainly one of the financially strongest. I remember PeopleExpress being described as having one of the four brightest futures of all the airlines Etc Etc.
You just don't know. My sense is the legacies that are left will all survive or merge. There are too few left for anyone to liquidate (although I remember telling my wife in 2000 that I thought the airline industry would be way less volatile in the 2000's than in the 90's!)

 

[On Your Six]

Yes, but the East pilots will always have the stigma of being dishonorable. They agreed as a group to binding arbitration, knowing that things might not go their way. Anyone wishing to interview there may be grouped in with those dishonorable people should they get hired.


OYS

 

[Crzipilot]

OYS, yup.....that progressive connection definitely makes sense. And you wonder why......

Keep this on topic ehh'?

 

[On Your Six]

Yea, your E145 gig is as secure as it gets.

Yes, but if he waits and gets on with Delta or FedEx, he'll have a future with variety. If he went to USAir, he'd be labelled due to his group's bad decision. We all know it.


OYS

 

[Crzipilot]

Not sure I want to be labeled a Deltoid either.......better hold out for Fedex...

 

[Tweaker]

Yes, but if he waits and gets on with Delta or FedEx, he'll have a future with variety. If he went to USAir, he'd be labelled due to his group's bad decision. We all know it.


OYS

That's just stoopid. No one will mistake someone under 50 for an original east pilot. Additionally, I care about as much what some random hater thinks about me, without verifying any truth as I do what Nancy Pelovski thinks of my gun collection. Most adults agree.

 

[Hovernut]

Why does USAir care how much dual 152 time I have? Geez!! Prepare for a COMPLETE breakdown of times by all aircraft you've flown. TT, PIC, SIC/Dual prop & jet...ugh!!

 

[spitfire1500]

Only the president gets a pension, and it doesn't pay much unless you get re-elected a couple of times.

I sure hope not with ALPA losing dues with all the membership leaving...glad our company left....looks like Air Tran will be next.

 

[vetrider]

Yea, your E145 gig is as secure as it gets.

A post by weasel I actually kind of like. I'll be darned.

 

[5w5flyer]

Why does USAir care how much dual 152 time I have? Geez!! Prepare for a COMPLETE breakdown of times by all aircraft you've flown. TT, PIC, SIC/Dual prop & jet...ugh!!

Because you will be flying with a 64 year old captain who will be drooling on himself for most of the flight.

 

[On Your Six]

That's just stoopid. No one will mistake someone under 50 for an original east pilot. Additionally, I care about as much what some random hater thinks about me, without verifying any truth as I do what Nancy Pelovski thinks of my gun collection. Most adults agree.

Thanks Sgt. Shultz! "I see nothing......I know nothing! But I wasn't there then...." But, you knew about it all when wanting to interview there.

OYS

 

[On Your Six]

Not sure I want to be labeled a Deltoid either.......better hold out for Fedex...

10 times better than US-Scare. Really, Sulley.


OYS

 

[RJLoser]

Not taking sides but.. Can a new hire bid both east and west vacancies when open?

 

[Tweaker]

Thanks Sgt. Shultz! "I see nothing......I know nothing! But I wasn't there then...." But, you knew about it all when wanting to interview there.

OYS

What in the hell is the point of your post? You hold people responsible for things that happened before they arrived? I bet you a big supporter of slavery reparations. Do you pine for your 40 acres and a mule?

You would be a happier person if you enacted a bit more discretion and used more rational thought in creating your list of hated pilots, me thinks.

 

[Tweaker]

Not taking sides but.. Can a new hire bid both east and west vacancies when open?

Within each class, yes, by DOB. The west slots will be taken by furloughed west pilots until there are none. The west has much fewer new slot openings and more than 75 furloughs.

Summary - Going west is not likely, and not an option if you are hired east.

 

[ASA_DFW]

400 people have applied as of yesterday. Only hiring for the 190. No airbus positions.

 

[greyskyracer]

400 people have applied as of yesterday. Only hiring for the 190. No airbus positions.

Where are you getting your info?

 

[ackattacker]

400 people have applied as of yesterday. Only hiring for the 190. No airbus positions.

I find that surprising. There are a lot of open positions on the airbus and those folks have to come from somewhere.

 

[ALGFLYR]

400 people have applied as of yesterday. Only hiring for the 190. No airbus positions.

Doubt that is true... There are 52 open slots and only 23 on the 190... So you think the will WAYYY over-staff the 190 and leave the other equipment short where they will cancel flights? They ran out of FO's in CLT on the Airbus at 9:30am 2 days ago... they are real thin most days in CLT on the Airbus, I would imagine most other bases are the same, although I have never looked...

 

[RJ Bum]

If it means anything, this is what the app says online...

Pilot - First Officer EMB190 116461 Philadelphia, PA, US Flight Operations Full-Time 4/29/11 Until filled​

 

[zymotic]

400 people have applied as of yesterday. Only hiring for the 190. No airbus positions.

What people need to understand is the 190 is the airplane you want to start on. Through a strange quirk you will most likely make more money the first year than you would on the 737 or bus. Also, if things start moving fast you will quickly get off reserve. I've stayed on the airplane a bit longer than some people my seniority since I commute and this month, for example, I work 12 days. Also seem to get a very high amount of trips bought (had three or four already this month).

 

[LaGarbage Man]

What people need to understand is the 190 is the airplane you want to start on. Through a strange quirk you will most likely make more money the first year than you would on the 737 or bus. Also, if things start moving fast you will quickly get off reserve. I've stayed on the airplane a bit longer than some people my seniority since I commute and this month, for example, I work 12 days. Also seem to get a very high amount of trips bought (had three or four already this month).

Yeah speaking of that, Get Back To Work You Slacker ; )

 

[RJLoser]

Within each class, yes, by DOB. The west slots will be taken by furloughed west pilots until there are none. The west has much fewer new slot openings and more than 75 furloughs.

Summary - Going west is not likely, and not an option if you are hired east.

So, I get the 190 CLT (hired east) can I go west when I can hold a West Vacancy?