US Airways Hiring! It's on!

[jws717]

How many days off on RSV? Are the 190 lines commutable?

 

[5w5flyer]

So, which contract would a new hire fly under?

GP

A new hire would fly under the contract of the "side" he is assigned. Right now I would expect all new hires to go East, more than likely to the 190. I would imagine that soon some new hires will get the 737 or 320 as happened in 2008. The West currently still has some guys furloughed, all of which have been offered a recall to the East. Any open spot on the West will go to the furloughs first.

 

[5w5flyer]

How many days off on RSV? Are the 190 lines commutable?

Min days off on RSV is 11, 12 for a line holder. I don't know where you are commuting from but for me commuting from NC most of the trips are commutable. The 190 base in CLT closed, so now the only 190 base is PHL. Besides Airways and SouthWest, UPS also has a good number of flights into and out of PHL. I was never a line holder, but I understand that it is very easy to trade trips at Airways. Many line holders with uncommutable trips will drop them and pick up something else - same with CDOs, which is what I always got while on reserve.

Good Luck

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

Do you use PBS, or some other line bidding software program?

 

[A-V-8]

Still no joy on the website for new hires. All new hires will go East. There are still furloghed pilots holding out for PHX. If you were a West pilot would you go work out East? All of my contacts thought that the website would be accepting resumes by now. Interviews were supposed to be in late Jan for Feb classes. I can't really get a stright answer from anyone. I have a contact on the hiring board and even she dosen't know when the window will open.

 

[cactusboy53]

Still no joy on the website for new hires. All new hires will go East. There are still furloghed pilots holding out for PHX. If you were a West pilot would you go work out East? All of my contacts thought that the website would be accepting resumes by now. Interviews were supposed to be in late Jan for Feb classes. I can't really get a stright answer from anyone. I have a contact on the hiring board and even she dosen't know when the window will open.

Actually there are about 20 that did go out east. Many of them needed the insurance coverage, and/or they lived out east so it made sense. The think that chaps my butt is while they get longevity of wage, they are place BELOW the third list employees as instructed by USAPA. The company must comply. While this may make sense to some, those AWA pilots had jobs when the merger took place. Whether you used the Nicolau Award OR Date-of-Hire, those AWA would be senior to all of the third list pilots. USAPA......the union that just keeps giving.

They are still estimating new hire recruitment on the east in the 190 fleet. When openings occur in the rest of the fleet (east & west), is when the remaining furloughed pilots will return (that want to). I don't think it will be much longer before the open up the application window, IMHO.

Welcome aboard!

 

[A-V-8]

they are place BELOW the third list employees as instructed by USAPA. The company must comply. While this may make sense to some, those AWA pilots had jobs when the merger took place. Whether you used the Nicolau Award OR Date-of-Hire, those AWA would be senior to all of the third list pilots. USAPA......the union that just keeps giving.

Yes I know. If an East pilot goes West he will be placed at the bottom of the West list as well. That just ain't right but IF they hire me my postion on the list will always be clear.

Crew Scheduling: You are junior assigned.
Me: Are you sure I am the most junior?
Crew Scheduling: Buuuwwwaaaaaaaaaaa Ha Ha Ha!

Dead last!

 

[jws717]

Min days off on RSV is 11, 12 for a line holder. I don't know where you are commuting from but for me commuting from NC most of the trips are commutable. The 190 base in CLT closed, so now the only 190 base is PHL. Besides Airways and SouthWest, UPS also has a good number of flights into and out of PHL. I was never a line holder, but I understand that it is very easy to trade trips at Airways. Many line holders with uncommutable trips will drop them and pick up something else - same with CDOs, which is what I always got while on reserve.

Good Luck

Thanks

 

[cactusboy53]

Yes I know. If an East pilot goes West he will be placed at the bottom of the West list as well. That just ain't right but IF they hire me my postion on the list will always be clear.

Crew Scheduling: You are junior assigned.
Me: Are you sure I am the most junior?
Crew Scheduling: Buuuwwwaaaaaaaaaaa Ha Ha Ha!

Dead last!

In your example, said East pilot (if not a third list pilot) would have THREE different positions (if employed in PHX) on THREE different lists (AAA, NICOLAU & AWA). My example the West pilot has the SAME position in the East (ahead of the third list pilots) whether using the Nicolau Award or Date-of-Hire, but is FORCED to in a position below those list pilots until the either list is established. It makes no logical sense what so ever, and is another reason why USAPA only helps those pilots that vaunt its DOH philosophy and eschew the Nicolau Award.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

No wars on this thread please. Growth/movement is good.

 

[Question4U]

The West furloughs will continue to be offered spots (group 2) in the east before new hires. Most furloughs are bypassing the 190 because of the pay and being limited to PHL, when a group 2 becomes available in the east there will be west guys that take it.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Crew Scheduling: You are junior assigned.
Me: Are you sure I am the most junior?
Crew Scheduling: Buuuwwwaaaaaaaaaaa Ha Ha Ha!

Lineholders can't be tagged on the west contract. Of course the east would find some way to have a problem with that and give it away as a vindictive concession.

I always like to ask the east folks, "What's the difference between a concession and a concussion? Ans- You have to have a brain to get a concussion!"

The Purple Veiner from DCA is what you have to look forward to with a career at USAir. His ilk ginned up USAPA, but still can't make it work (just like they screwed up their ALPA franchise when they had that. Unions should come with trigger locks standard). That's doesn't keep them from extorting the pilots to throw good money after bad, but I'm sure anyone who wants to can find a job with union representation that really represents.

 

[spitfire1500]

USAirways.....The Mesa Airbus Division

 

[zymotic]

USAirways.....The Mesa Airbus Division

Seeing that I've worked at both I would say they are about as far apart as the night is from the day but I doubt you will take my word for it....this is a message board after all.

If you are actually interested in working here I'll briefly throw out a few facts about working on the East.

Yes the contract is pathetic vs any other major airline. No doubt about it....but its probably a better job than a regional. I'm on the 190 recently recalled. There are 11 days off regardless of the days in the particular month. Short call must be within 90 minutes normal driving time of the airport but that doesn't mean when you are called it won't take you four hours to get to the airport. Long call is 9 hours.

Primary lines have about half the month off. You can improve that if you like by using a schedule adjustment period after you get your line award (I've got 18 off this month). You can also "go on the bid sheet" which is a manual process daily that can allow you to trade or pick up something two days out from the day of processing. Yes, the East is stuck in the dark ages by lacking web based trading but after you get used to it, it really isn't that bad. Secondary lines are created from the leftover pairings after primary lines are awarded and people adjust as explained above. Best think I can say about the job is you work with professionals, everybody does their job (as oppossed to the Captain doing everybodies job), and the flows, checklist, and all that are so simple I don't feel like I'm really working when I go to work.

 

[MELVIS]

What Zymotic said. I'm a west guy that took the recall to the east. Easy choice for me, no job or job I hate or go fly. When it comes up that I'm a "original" west guy, the next question has been; how has everybody been treating you? The answer is, great. I have yet been accosted or questioned of my intentions. In reality, flying on the east and west is pretty much more of the same. Everybody bitches about the same stuff. Difference is the contract. The west has alot of great stuff the east could use. The east has so much flexibility in their schedules ( if you are a line holder) that would benefit the west greatly. I'm still a "westy" in a east world, but so far, so good. Still waiting for the adults to show up and lead us, no takers yet.

 

[PSUPilot]

So is there any word yet on when hiring may actually start over there?

 

[Dornier 335]

So is there any word yet on when hiring may actually start over there?

The E190 Fleet CA and Dir said yesterday that for this year there will be only 12 new hires aka the poolies that were contacted in Dec 2010. Not sure if it has to do with the return of the furloughees and/or the pilots on medical leave.

I wouldn't worry too much. Remember that about a year ago the company said that there won't be any recalls. In this business things change daily.

 

[Flybywire44]

USAirways.....The Mesa Airbus Division

:smash:

 

[BeCareful!]

What Zymotic said. I'm a west guy that took the recall to the east. Easy choice for me, no job or job I hate or go fly. When it comes up that I'm a "original" west guy, the next question has been; how has everybody been treating you? The answer is, great. I have yet been accosted or questioned of my intentions. In reality, flying on the east and west is pretty much more of the same. Everybody bitches about the same stuff. Difference is the contract. The west has alot of great stuff the east could use. The east has so much flexibility in their schedules ( if you are a line holder) that would benefit the west greatly. I'm still a "westy" in a east world, but so far, so good. Still waiting for the adults to show up and lead us, no takers yet.

Melvis -

Thank you for the reasoned, rational feedback. Not used to seeing that on this website.

BC

 

[Flyer1015]

To clarify the thread title: US Airways is NOT hiring.