US Airways Final Recalls: Take it, or Leave it?

[weasel_lips]

The way I see it, accepting a US AIR recall is ONLY an option if you are unemployed and in desperate need of a job. It would be foolish to leave a stable job for that place. It is surprising people are getting hung up on the decision at all.

 

[Green]

The way I see it, accepting a US AIR recall is ONLY an option if you are unemployed and in desperate need of a job. It would be foolish to leave a stable job for that place. It is surprising people are getting hung up on the decision at all.

I disagree. I think it's hard to seperate frustration over the award from the decision making process. If i was in the right seat at JetBlue I would accept the recall. Likewise if I was at a non-sched that had made a significant portion of their profits from flying troops around during the last several years i would also accept a Us Airways recall. I think the key in this bizz is to try and project profits into the future and go work for those companies. The best job today will likely not be a good job in 5 years if the company has not positioned themselves well to deal with future market conditions. As much as i love to hate Parker if he can have the foresight to offer a decent contract and make the employees somewhat satisfied he will have this company postioned well.

Decisions made in anger are easy to screw up. I wonder if the UAL captain who left to go work for JetBlue out of frustration with United is happy with his/her decision. My .02 is worth what you paid for it but it never hurts to hear another opinion.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

When I said, "seniority is abrogated and ALPA remains silent." I was referring to the Metrojet launch fiasco when furloughees were recalled to Metrojet while newhires were put in higher paying positions on the DC9, MD80, 737, 757/767.

With regard to your other question, i'm not going to participate in an AWA/USAir peeing contest on this thread. There are plenty of threads for that.

 

[imadumbpilot]

Isn't that how it works at every airline in the world? Example....Let's say Fedex is having a class Jul 1st and then another class July 15th. The class starting on the 1st is all 727 FE positions while the class starting on the 15th turns out to be MD-11 spots. Was seniority abrogated when the junior pilots ended up in the widebodies? I'm sure all those senior pilots sitting on the panel of the 727 would much rather take the MD-11. The same thing happened at UAL back in the boom days when pilots were getting hired right into the 75/767 while more senior pilots were seatlocked on the 737. Those are the breaks.

No, it is not how it is handled everywhere else. At Continental they run a system bid, and you know what equipment you will be recalled into based on seniority. Now, with newhires, yes it is luck of the draw.

 

[TWA Dude]

Sorry to digress a little, but per a chief pilot in PHX recurrent training today off-the-street hiring (to the E190) could begin as soon as July. 28 out of 39 former AWA poolies verbally agreed to accept a class.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

That's a pretty big digression actually considering this is a thread about furloughed pilots trying to decide whether to accept recall.

 

[TWA Dude]

I hate starting new threads for relatively minor information.

 

[johnnyb]

He gets the A330 EVEN THOUGH HE IS JUNIOR to the senior pilot in the previous class.
See? The US Airways folks can't even handle seniority issues among themselves, much less within the context of a merger.

Seniority is no guarantee of circumstance. The guys accepting recall a year ago are senior but there were simply no openings on the A330 at the time nor the ability to see into the future as to how each pilot would structure their bid choices.

I agree bidding on positions prior to return is a good idea but Manglement is ( and always has at AAA ) resisting.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

You know, I guess there is a little bit more to look at. I've seen the payscales, but what is the retirement like now at USAir? What are the medical benefits like? Is there a commuter policy?

Could anyone fill in the blanks please?

 

[LittleDeuce]

A-330

Seniority is no guarantee of circumstance. The guys accepting recall a year ago are senior but there were simply no openings on the A330 at the time nor the ability to see into the future as to how each pilot would structure their bid choices.

I agree bidding on positions prior to return is a good idea but Manglement is ( and always has at AAA ) resisting.

The initial word is there will be 7 A-330 slots in the June 18 recall class. This is the first class on the present bid.

I will confirm tomorrow when the manuals arrive!