US Airways Final Recalls: Take it, or Leave it?

[TWA Dude]

Never forget the fact that your Alpa brothers in the West did not want you at US Airways ( the suriviving certificate).

I disagree; you're being emotional by encouraging them to be angry for the rest of their careers. It wasn't personal! I didn't agree with our MC's proposal to drop the CEL pilots but you don't see me saying I'm angry with every USAirways (East) pilot because they proposed an integration that screwed me. Even with the crap going on today I would never take out any anger on random East pilots I pass in the hallway. Nor did I do that during the TWA/AA stuff. Emotionalism does us no good.

 

[trainer8]

I disagree; you're being emotional by encouraging them to be angry for the rest of their careers. It wasn't personal! I didn't agree with our MC's proposal to drop the CEL pilots but you don't see me saying I'm angry with every USAirways (East) pilot because they proposed an integration that screwed me. Even with the crap going on today I would never take out any anger on random East pilots I pass in the hallway. Nor did I do that during the TWA/AA stuff. Emotionalism does us no good.

No doubt about the emotions. Pull out the document and read your MEC's reference to those 100 pilots. There is a little difference between keepng your job and having another pilot group request an arbitrator to officially have you removed from the airline.

T8

 

[Lampshade]

Deuce,
I assume those positions will disappear in the winter when the intl schedule is drawn down. What are the current displacement provisions in the contract?

Back to the E190 with 50% paycut...noooooo!

 

[waazzuuuup!!]

FurloughedAgain is your Dad's name Jack Murphy?

 

[FurloughedAgain]

No, but John was in my class.

 

[waazzuuuup!!]

Ok. Just checking.

As a may 99 date of hire, I had the good furtune of flying with his dad Capt John Murphy on my Frankfurt IOE which was my first North Atlantic crossing.

A true gentleman!

I too have decided not to go back. It was nice while it lasted. NOT LOOKING BACK!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AV80R]

That was without a doubt the best narrative ever written on this board. My hope is the best for you and your family and the rest of the USAir family as they are faced with a similar decision.

Agree 100%

Furloughed, maybe you should look into writing some aviation related articles as a second career? You seem to be very talented with the written word…

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Thanks. As a matter of fact, shortly after the furlough I wrote a series of articles (2 about furlough-planning, 1 about how to be a good Captain) for Career Pilot Magazine (Kit Darby's rag).

I'm always looking for other opportunities to write, but they're tough to come by.

 

[cactusboy53]

MCDU;
I don't know about discrace, but I do know this:
1. AAA MC and MEC had lots of opportunity to NEGOTIATE a merged list, but they stuck with DOH and LOS.
2. AAA MC and MEC were instructed by the mediator/arbitrator (that they had a 50% share is selection) that DOH was NOT a tenable position.
3. During the arbitration phase, the mediator strongly suggested AGAIN that DOH was a non-starter.

My MC and MEC fought long and hard in a fair arbitration process to protect the AWA pilots relative seniority. They largely suceeded. The first 517 slots went to AAA pilots - DOH & LOS. Good for you. Our number one pilot got slot 518, resulting in a hefty loss of relative seniority.

In the past two years of debate the East has grown, upgraded and recalled pilots while all growth has ceased as a result of this business move. Again, good for you.

I would say the windfall goes both ways.

 

[MCDU]

No growth, just attrition. USair had more planes at the time of merger. I do not believe the 517 should have gotten those first slots. They should have just fenced of all widebodies.

Take into account that the East is cancelling flights due to a lack of recalls that should have happened years ago. They are severly understaffed.

AWA had guys on furlough in early 2002, they all expected to return due to the projected retirements, people leaving, growth. So did the EAST furloughees. (my wife) But that was all put on hold and they are paying the price. 280 cancelled flights last Thurs alone. Wait til the summer hits.

Good luck USAIR

Marty