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The pilots and FAs should be awarded the Collier Trophy for outstanding airmanship.
 
CNN and others keep saying "how rare it is for birds to take out two engines on a jet". I'm surprised that no one has brought up the crash of YUCLA 27 out of Elmendorf a few years back. If I recall correctly, this AWACS struck Canadian geese shortly after TO. Multiple engine failure ensued resulting in the loss of control and subsequent crash. All on board perished.
 
Tomorrow while F.A.s are giving their brief everyone will take out the card and follow along and then many will ask questions. If someone is talking while they are briefing the other passengers will give them a big sssssssshhhhhhhhhh. This will go on for 3-4 weeks. Doesn’t matter which airline all of the F.A.s will have very attentive passengers.
 
Good thing it was VFR
Good thing it was not night time
Amazing airmanship!!! Congratulations to the Captain, First Officer and Flight Atendants!
 
McNugget said:
Hopefully, they will get sent for a drug and alcohol screening, first.
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Ahhh yes thats the way it works in this industry....
but they don't play out that scenario on MS Flight sim do they? So I guess you wouldn't or couldn't know this........

Stay on FI Nuggy we'll teach you enough to at least pick up one ugly chick in a bar pretending that you are a pilot!
 
Michael Savage is talking about this on his show and he attributes this to the fact that airlines don't hire based on Affirmative Action. ROTFL


Clay Lacy (scab?) will be taking questions on the show. Hope he straightens it all out.
 
The clips on the news look exactly like the picture on the briefing cards. Textbook ditch crew did an excellent job.
 
Hi, it's been a while since I posted on this forum. I actually have a couple of questions. ( I have been a flight attendant since 1998 off and on ). Why does the news call this a "crash"? I always thought a crash is when the fuselage is broken? So, I assume it is an emergency landing (ditching) in water.

A very successful one at that. The only other successful ditching I think was with Antilles or Alm airlines, even though people perished I believe the plane was landed successfully in the water and this example has been used for CRM classes.

I actually brought up birdstrikes in my last training class there is a website like www.birdstrike.org in which people can read about the dangers of birdstrikes..

Other than that I've always been told in training, believe me "you won't ever have to face a ditching" well today it happened and my congradulations to the crew of US Airways.
 
CRASH EQUALS DRAMA ditching is boring!!!
 
My high school physics teacher was a diver that helped recover the bodies of the 1960 Eastern Airlines crash at Logan. He said that many of the victims were still strapped in their seats, so they just removed the seats from the rails, and took the bodies out one row at a time. 62 people were killed when that airplane hit a flock of birds (starlings?).

Glad this one had a much better ending. Kudos to the crew!
 
MissKittyKat said:
Hi, it's been a while since I posted on this forum. I actually have a couple of questions. ( I have been a flight attendant since 1998 off and on ). Why does the news call this a "crash"? I always thought a crash is when the fuselage is broken? So, I assume it is an emergency landing (ditching) in water.

A very successful one at that. The only other successful ditching I think was with Antilles or Alm airlines, even though people perished I believe the plane was landed successfully in the water and this example has been used for CRM classes.

I actually brought up birdstrikes in my last training class there is a website like www.birdstrike.org in which people can read about the dangers of birdstrikes..

Other than that I've always been told in training, believe me "you won't ever have to face a ditching" well today it happened and my congradulations to the crew of US Airways.
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Some media types call it a "crash" because they simply dont know. One reporter called it a twin engine jet, correct although I imagine something smaller than the A320 when I hear that.

If we aviation nerds suddenly found ourselves in other careers we might not fully grasp the lingo related with different career fields.
 
They went down near 48th street. Sounds like the USAF pilot was trying to make it onto the Intrepid! :)
 
Thanks for the reply, right it's not a "crash" unless the fuselage is broken up, this is a successful emergency landing in the water.

What is hard for me to believe is all the trainers in classes have said " oh you need not worry about a ditching" it won't happen. Some of my bases, were Guam.... water.... Mia....water...Pie.....water...Fll...water, I hope this example is used for future CRM classes and training, that a successful ditching can be done!
 
I'm tired of people saying the outcome of the flight was "a miracle". It wasn't a miracle -- it was people doing a fantastic job.
 
MissKittyKat said:
Thanks for the reply, right it's not a "crash" unless the fuselage is broken up, this is a successful emergency landing in the water.

What is hard for me to believe is all the trainers in classes have said " oh you need not worry about a ditching" it won't happen. Some of my bases, were Guam.... water.... Mia....water...Pie.....water...Fll...water, I hope this example is used for future CRM classes and training, that a successful ditching can be done!
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It would in fact be nice if we can all learn from this.
Reality is that many training departments do just the least of what is demanded by 121 regulations.
Not all, but many......
 
Thank you Amish, I'm glad you recognized my screenname. ( It had been awhile since I posted because I am a widow of a pilot who died on a layover so I just shyed away) I can't ask my husband these silly questions anymore.

My point was the training, I will not name the companies at this point, but if I had a tape recorder, a ditching in training is like ( oh no need to worry, it won't ever happen, "you have questions on the 100 pound raft in the overheads?, oh don't worry just pass the test! " just memorize everything and you will be on the line, ok. Good news I always looked at the manuals during flight, I can't lift a 100 pound raft but it was always there, I don't think any rafts where used in this landing, maybe the slides that are rafts too.

I've also worked on 737 in which slides are rafts, but never needed.
 
MissKittyKat said:
Thank you Amish, I'm glad you recognized my screenname. ( It had been awhile since I posted because I am a widow of a pilot who died on a layover so I just shyed away) I can't ask my husband these silly questions anymore.

My point was the training, I will not name the companies at this point, but if I had a tape recorder, a ditching in training is like ( oh no need to worry, it won't ever happen, "you have questions on the 100 pound raft in the overheads?, oh don't worry just pass the test! " just memorize everything and you will be on the line, ok. Good news I always looked at the manuals during flight, I can't lift a 100 pound raft but it was always there, I don't think any rafts where used in this landing, maybe the slides that are rafts too.

I've also worked on 737 in which slides are rafts, but never needed.
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Sorry about your loss....

and welcome back too.

Those slide do in fact double as rafts...
 
FINALLY pilots get the "job well done" that they deserve. Positive publicity will only help us in our careers (in the public's eyes). I was getting sick and tired of how us pilots are nothing but alcoholic, overpaid workers. Sadly, it took an event like this for people to realize that. Great job to all!!!!
 
Looks like that Ditching button actually works! Great job by the crew!
 
Well done Captain Sullenberg, First Officer Skiles, and then entire cabin crew! Hope to buy you all a beverage of your choice someday!:beer:
 
B-atch said:
CNN and others keep saying "how rare it is for birds to take out two engines on a jet". I'm surprised that no one has brought up the crash of YUCLA 27 out of Elmendorf a few years back. If I recall correctly, this AWACS struck Canadian geese shortly after TO. Multiple engine failure ensued resulting in the loss of control and subsequent crash. All on board perished.
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I didn't catch the news on this until tonight. I actually choked up a bit- and have never been prouder. I keep imagining the decision to stay over water and away from the city, not attempting the airport- how decisive, how quick- knowing you're going to put the a/c in cold water- and ditching events don't always end so positively.

I've said for a long time- USAir has the best training out there. I'm very proud of our peers. We should all feel a bit of pride today. And remember that that crew didn't wake up thinking they were going to do that- the next could be any of us.
 

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