CCDiscoB
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Huggyu2 said:I scanned the AF Times, and it looked like an IP was involved with giving them the test answers. In any case, I see the USAF's point, but the USAF needs to realize that they breed this somewhat in the UPT environment. How many times have you heard "if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin", or "currencies are just a pencil stroke away", etc... I'd be very surprised if the Wing or squadron leadership at Columbus claimed they never used a "pony" our "gouge" when taking an IRC test, ACSC test, etc... If it's true, great. Otherwise, it's a bit hypocritical. So what is to be done? Spank these guys hard, but reinstate them into UPT. I don't condone their actions, but you shouldn't allow it for decades and the decide all at once to crush a dozen folks.[/QUOTE]
What's really going on here, is some Lt Col trying to get promoted due to a mistake made by a Capt and a few Lt's. The higher ups will applaud the SQ/CC for showing such incredible integrity and holding his people to a higher than high standard. The media in turn will report showing how the AF strictly enforces its integrity rules. Publicity like this is good damage control inlight of other scandals at places like the AF Academey.
HoursHore said:I hope they Don't look at the Stan Eval pubs and see all the highlighted sections that happen to correspond to the IRC, and open book tests.
What's really going on here, is some Lt Col trying to get promoted due to a mistake made by a Capt and a few Lt's. The higher ups will applaud the SQ/CC for showing such incredible integrity and holding his people to a higher than high standard. The media in turn will report showing how the AF strictly enforces its integrity rules. Publicity like this is good damage control inlight of other scandals at places like the AF Academey.
Did any of those dismissed think that what they were doing was the "right" thing to do?
Batman said:There are many facts about the cheating scandal that have not been released. I will say that there was an inappropriate relationship going on between an IP and a student. This is probably the reason why the scandal went so high up the chain. Normally, Flight/Squadron CC's will take care of the situation in-house--Many of us graduates can attest to that. Since the Wing had to get involved, there is no they way could overlook the blatant cheating that was going on. It is one thing to have gouge, but it is a whole different thing to bring the actual test questions in to the test. In my opinion, some of the students should have been charged with stupidity rather than cheating.
talondriver said:Yes...there IS more to the situation.
We had to rework the testing process putting the test bank on a secure computer (which some geek stud will probably figure out in a couple of years). Then, AETC came by to check. I think they went to the other SUPT bases as well.