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I love all these discussions about this company and that company, but if we go to 65, then every job will suck. Add another five years of throwing gear. Right now, anybody who has the good fortune of having a choice of companies should take the one that'll be the most pleasant for a very long time in the right seat.
 
ok enough is enough

hey pool, heres my order thats better than an rj, it goes like this,airtran....your mom at the ramada...and ..airtran again...i got two words for you.....done
 
My gawd, someone needs to take these "Which airline would you choose... XXX vs. YYY?" threads out back and shoot them. It all boils down to the same issues (insert whatever airline you wish and these are in no particular order):
1. pay
2. domicles/commuting policy
3. upgrade
4. benefits (retirement, health care, etc)
5. equipment
6. schedule (days off, hours/month, day/night flying)
7. people or boxes
8. domestic/international
9. company management/history/health/culture

I probably missed a few, but I was in a rush to post this reply in the hopes I could prevent another "Us vs. Them" thread from clogging up the server. You answer the above questions and make your decision. You can find all the answers you need by doing a search since just about everyone of those questions was as asked for just about every company out there. I completely understand the "Do you like working for X company?" questions, but please spare us the "FedEx or Comair" questions.
 
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So far on this one thread, I have been called "monkey nuts, a tool and a gay jet fag with a go nowhere career." Also, I had someone wish medical problems on me and I read negative remarks about my mother.

I was merely stating facts, AirTran is not in the same league as UPS, period. You people need to lighten up and get real or get therapy.
 
So far on this one thread, I have been called "monkey nuts, a tool and a gay jet fag with a go nowhere career." Also, I had someone wish medical problems on me and I read negative remarks about my mother.

I was merely stating facts, AirTran is not in the same league as UPS, period. You people need to lighten up and get real or get therapy.

I'll ask nicely. Do you work for Hulas?

PIPE
 
Never end a sentence with a preposition. There are only 3 places better than where I am flying a CRJ 700. They are in order, FedEx, UPS and Southwest.

Whatever, pool boy. Maybe if you spent more time working on your people skills instead of correcting grammar on a message board you wouldn't still be an RJ captain with over 6000 hrs. If your actual personality is anything close to what you've exhibited on this board I'm quite sure that your airline career has gone as far as it's going to go.
 
ok

and i wasnt talking bad about your mother.....i just said that shes #2 on my list and that was a fun night at the ramada
 
I'd take Airtran for the reason that someone already posted here.....I don't want to fly on the wrong side of the clock. I know UPS is a GREAT job, as is FedEx....probably one of the best in the US. But I'd be completely miserable and absolutely hate it there because of the night thing. You can't pay me enough money to stay up all night like that. Again, nothing against you FedEx and UPS guys. You have GREAT jobs. It's just not for me. :)
 
The real question is would a current UPS pilot leave for Airtran and would a current Airtran pilot leave for UPS?

Well, if you leave anywhere to go to UPS you may find yourself in the cockpit with THE GUAT, RHOID, UPSer or one of the many other monikers he's got stashed. Be careful, the brain damage he's on LTL for may not manifest itself until it's too late.
 
Night freight is night freight....Nuff' said.


The question is:

If you were at UPS and got your "license to fly people" would you go somewhere else?


YKW

Flown nothing but people for 15 years and now freight..... getting my recall letter next month and Im going to use it as toilet paper and send it back to mother D in a UPS package :D with a note that says "what can brown do for you"?

I think that should answer your question eeeehhhh????
 
Whatever, pool boy. Maybe if you spent more time working on your people skills instead of correcting grammar on a message board you wouldn't still be an RJ captain with over 6000 hrs. If your actual personality is anything close to what you've exhibited on this board I'm quite sure that your airline career has gone as far as it's going to go.

Unless you consider going to FedEx going farther in my career!!

Buh Bye!!
 
Never end a sentence with a preposition. There are only 3 places better than where I am flying a CRJ 700. They are in order, FedEx, UPS and Southwest.

OK. Any place beats wherever it is you're flying a CRJ 700 at a$$hole.

Just kidding. I don't have a dog in this fight but I couldn't resist.
 
I would go with UPS. Yes, I am working at UPS for just a short time now. I have always tried to get on, and after a long road and longer swim, I did. When people tell me that they are a "poeple person" and they like to interact with the paxs. I have to sit back a laugh and ask, "when the heck did you have a pax hanging out with you up on the flight deck talking while enroute???" With the steel door between you and them how could you. I interact with people, they are called fellow pilots, ground personal, and the mechs.
I have always said............."bixes always pay top dollar" in both pilots and to ride on our planes.
 
Never end a sentence with a preposition. There are only 3 places better than where I am flying a CRJ 700. They are in order, FedEx, UPS and Southwest.

I'm guessing Horizon. If I lived in Portland I probably wouldn't consider leaving either.
 
getting my recall letter next month and Im going to use it as toilet paper and send it back to mother D in a UPS package :D with a note that says "what can brown do for you"?

That's pretty funny.
 
"If you were at UPS and got your "license to fly people" would you go somewhere else?"

When I was a Freight Dog ( He said proudly ) the above question from Dumb-Azz Civilians was one of my favourite/most irritating.

Just thought I'd include it here as a little tongue-in-cheek humour for those of us who have been in the ranks of "The Order of Sleepless Knights".

Now, about sending "poopy paper" to Mother D...Don't you miss that Double-Breasted suit?


YKW
 
It all depends how fast you want to age and if you care about flying wide body a/c across the globe.
Good luck!
 
I talked to an AirTran pilot who left to go fly for Emirates. He was about 3 months from upgrade when he left. He said that his ultimate reason for pursuing this career was to fly Widebodies and fly International.

Personal perference, I guess. Personally, flying international is no longer my thing, but if it's a big deal to you, then you have to factor that in to your decision making.
 
It's a legitimate question. Some people don't want to work at night, regardless of the pay. I declined a UPS interview years ago, because I didn't want to spend the rest of my career working graveyard. They can't pay me enough to live like that.

To the original poster - You're kidding right? UPS!

I understand the above comment. Personally, I'd rather fly four legs on the backside for six days straight as opposed to fly during the day and wonder how the economy and management were plotting against my retirement. Freightdawgs aren't bulletproof but they are the last to be put up against the wall. ;)

Enjoy your day flying...by the way....FedEx is about 47% day flying. :D
 
Ok, I have to know people keep saying FedEx and UPS fly a lot of time during the day. So If I fly 50% daylight hours at AirTran or Delta or SWA most all of it starts during the day. This 50% day flying in Brown or Purple what perecnt start in the day or night? FedEx or UPS guys only please.
 
"Day" and "night" flying at a pax carrier is not a valid comparison.

At a pax carrier "night" (generally, when flying domestic) means after sunset til' about midnight or so. People don't really like to travel between 1 and 5 am. Yes, some pax carriers have Red-Eyes, but it is the exception rather than the rule.

It is not like the Freight outfits where "night" means seeing 3 am on a regular basis.

3 am is for the following in my book:

- Sleeping

- Peeing

- Puking

- and Farking.


Flying, or standing around a Hub/Sort, is not on my list of "Things to do at 3am."

But, thats just me....


YKW
 
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