United will fly into Aspen with SkyWest

[WSurf]

Yea, I would love to ignore General Lee. But then again I would miss a post of him telling us about his next movie. If you guys didn't know, General Lee is a Stunt Double For Gay Porns! Midget ones also!!

 

[snine3departure]

Nothing against the Skywest guys or the rj but I am afraid it is only a matter of time before one is lost in the hills. Be safe guys.

 

[WSurf]

Wsurf, nobody from AWAC is complaining about losing KASE so I don't think any feathers are being ruffled. Secondly, nobody cares about whether all engines are operating...it's the engine out performance that is critical. You know nothing about the airport or aircraft involved besides having ridden in one.

Didn't I type that I didn't know what the engine out performance was!! Read it again you NUB! Anyway, an Approach is an Approach, is an Approarch.
You read the plates, look at your performance charts, and fly the plane like its suppose too. Is the BAC easier? Sure it is! But soooo fuc$in what! You have to know the limits of your aircraft, plane and simple. So don't come on here preaching that you guys and the BAC are the only ones that can do it right.... Nub!!

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

midgets

Yea, I would love to ignore General Lee. But then again I would miss a post of him telling us about his next movie. If you guys didn't know, General Lee is a Stunt Double For Gay Porns! Midget ones also!!

LERCH (General Flea) and his midgets...not to be confused with widgets.

 

[NEDude]

Anyway, an Approach is an Approach, is an Approarch.
You read the plates, look at your performance charts, and fly the plane like its suppose too. Is the BAC easier? Sure it is! But soooo fuc$in what! You have to know the limits of your aircraft, plane and simple. So don't come on here preaching that you guys and the BAC are the only ones that can do it right.... Nub!!

It's not just any approach however. If you are referring to the Red Table Contact Maneuver, the approach plate states it is for the BAe-146. Additionally the published balked landing procedures refer to specific BAe-146 flap and airbrake configurations. I don't see how anyone can fly an approach that states it is specifically for one type of aircraft. I don't claim to be an expert and could be proven wrong. I am just reading what the plate says.

 

[General Lee]

Yea, I would love to ignore General Lee. But then again I would miss a post of him telling us about his next movie. If you guys didn't know, General Lee is a Stunt Double For Gay Porns! Midget ones also!!

No, I am the fluffer! And, I mostly do porns with NBA themes---since I am 6'5" and weigh 100 pounds soaking wet.(in the locker room shower....)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[rtmcfi]

Didn't I type that I didn't know what the engine out performance was!! Read it again you NUB! Anyway, an Approach is an Approach, is an Approarch.
You read the plates, look at your performance charts, and fly the plane like its suppose too. Is the BAC easier? Sure it is! But soooo fuc$in what! You have to know the limits of your aircraft, plane and simple. So don't come on here preaching that you guys and the BAC are the only ones that can do it right.... Nub!!

Easy there tiger!
An approach is an approach is an approach, but.......
I can assure you OO will be sending pilots to some pretty intense KASE training. The FAA will require it, guaranteed. Do you do that for BTM, HLN, MSO, COD, or RNO? ASE is a different animal. Lots of AWAC pilots are bummed to see DEN go away. Few of them will miss night IMC into KASE. That should tell you something. Can it be done in the 700? Yep, or OO wouldn't do it. Will it be weight restricted? Probably. Will it be a whole lot of fun? Not so likely. AWAC and the BAC are not the only guys that can do it, that's for sure. XJ and the AVRO would also be a good choice. Perhaps the 700 is a great choice. Aerodata and time will tell......

 

[Lampshade]

I heard that they will be restricted to VFR and cap the seats to 50-40 max. Anyone heard this?

 

[Skaff]

6'5" and 100 pounds soaking wet.(in the locker room shower....)


Bye Bye--General Lee

Is that the name of your new movie.

 

[difete]

I heard that they will be restricted to VFR and cap the seats to 50-40 max. Anyone heard this?

Dunno, but sounds very restricted to just even try to get some revenue out of such conditions.

 

[Mercyful Fate]

General are you in a panic?

 

[FlyboyPhil]

I got to try that one out in the 70 sim, The SE missed approach wasn't too bad, but the go around from 50 feet was rough. At max landing weight we missed the hill on the right of the runway by about 30 feet.. sometimes! Will have to see what restrictions they put on the landing weight.. Might be able to take a full boat if you don't have alternate fuel.. etc..

 

[Crossky]

I heard that they will be restricted to VFR and cap the seats to 50-40 max. Anyone heard this?

Yes, this is accurate, according to an fellow AWAC pilot who actual jumpseated with SKW and saw the internal company memo.

I'll sell SKW the rights for our LOC/DME 15 approach for an easy $10K. PM me!

 

[DashCojones]

I got to try that one out in the 70 sim, The SE missed approach wasn't too bad, but the go around from 50 feet was rough. At max landing weight we missed the hill on the right of the runway by about 30 feet.. sometimes! Will have to see what restrictions they put on the landing weight.. Might be able to take a full boat if you don't have alternate fuel.. etc..

Were you doing the published missed from 50 feet? Or a balked procedure into a left downwind for 15?

 

[Mookie]

"Yes, this is accurate, according to an fellow AWAC pilot who actual jumpseated with SKW and saw the internal company memo."

What memo??? nothing in my mailbox...

Mookie

 

[Night_Flight]

So don't come on here preaching that you guys and the BAC are the only ones that can do it right....

I still much rather prefer having an expierenced crew flying into Aspen with a Capt. who's been doing Aspen for 15+ years in an aircraft designed to fly slow and extremely good at high altitude airports. Fly safe at Aspen!

I wish SkyWest the best. Continue our excellent safe flying.

Better you all than Go-nbendover(Jet)!

-Night_Flight-

 

[EFIS COMP MON]

Your kidding right?

Uhh Ohh, not ASE! SKW doesn't have much experience flying in the mountains, this could be worry some. Someone should send General Lee in there in his 75/76 and teach the SKW pilots how it's really done.

 

[007]

Yeah, I did. I flew Dornier 228s and E120s out of MDW in the early 90s. I still remember all of that. Most people on this board didn't have to go through the krap I did back then, and now act spoiled if they make less that $30 an hour as an RJ FO. I think I made $13 an hour flying a krappy Dornier 228 around freezing cold Michigan from MDW, and a few points south like Springfield, IL. Woopie. And, I hate a$$ muffins-----but you probably love them.


Bye Bye--General Lee

No offense,

but that was in 90's dollars too. Why do we have to have it just as bad as you did? Just too pay our DUES. Thats BS. Come on General don't be a mainline primadonna, you argue more intelligent than that. Unless you're trying to be an equal opportunity offender.

 

[SkywayFO]

Its not just to approach. Its the fact the Take off Min to a 2 engine aircraft is 5000 and 5 if I remember right. Your stuck if the weather goes down.

 

[mynameisjim]

Its not just to approach. Its the fact the Take off Min to a 2 engine aircraft is 5000 and 5 if I remember right. Your stuck if the weather goes down.

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[Russ]

"since I am 6'5" and weigh 100 pounds soaking wet.(in the locker room shower....)"

Lurch, is that you? I always wondered what happened to you after the series cancelled.

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

Did you say experience

I still much rather prefer having an expierenced crew flying into Aspen with a Capt. who's been doing Aspen for 15+ years in an aircraft designed to fly slow and extremely good at high altitude airports. Fly safe at Aspen!

I wish SkyWest the best. Continue our excellent safe flying.

Better you all than Go-nbendover(Jet)!

-Night_Flight-

SkyWest has been serving Mountainous terrain longer than 15 years.

KSUN
KJAC
KBTM
KBZN
KMSO
KRNO
KHLN

There are a few for you to chew on.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

SkyWest has been serving Mountainous terrain longer than 15 years.

KSUN
KJAC
KBTM
KBZN
KMSO
KRNO
KHLN

There are a few for you to chew on.

You left out the highest elevation airport in North America...We flew into Telluride out of LAX.

 

[172driver]

Northwest announced direct MSP-HLN service awhile back without doing any of the performance engineering necessary. After a bunch of press releases, an advertising campaign, selling loads of seats, and a fancy little ceremony at the HLN airport they discovered that Pinnacle would need flaps 8 in their CRJ's to be able to take enough people to make it worth while. Northwest then canceled the service for about 10 months while they reevaluated their decision to order all CRJ's with only flaps 20.

That's interesting. When we flew into HLN, our books gave us better numbers for flaps 20. I think they just make all this stuff up anyway. In SLC, we would often be performance limited to a much lower weight than SKYW in the same airplane.

 

[Flight Junkie]

You left out the highest elevation airport in North America...We flew into Telluride out of LAX.

Hmmm....I thought Leadville had the highest elevation. 9927MSL....right?

 

[propjockey]

Leadville has the highest public-use (I threw that in in case there is a private strip that I haven't heard of) paved strip in the US.

Telluride I believe is the highest elevation airport served by scheduled 121 carriers.

 

[Bandit60]

I don't know if they have different approaches or not but all the approaches I have seen into ASE do not allow for cat d approaches. Is it possible for them to shoot the approach at cat c speeds. Just wondering?

 

[SoCentralRain]

Telluride I believe is the highest elevation airport served by scheduled 121 carriers.

Since this 121 carrier is GLA, why don't they fly into ASE?

Oh yeah, it's that turboprop thing. The affluent cannot subject themselves to such "slumming". Unless it's for a good pint at McStorlies...

Cheers,
SCR

 

[propjockey]

True, the 1900 would be an excellent plane to take into ASE. But I think you're absolutely right about Aspen people believing that a 1900 is far, far beneath them. (Doesn't Mesa also do TEX in the Dash?)

There were times when I wished I could tell the occasional Sun Valley pax (just like Aspen, for those unfamiliar) "if you were half as rich as you think you are, you'd be flying here in a Gulfstream instead of a Brasilia!"

 

[FL280]

SkyWest has been serving Mountainous terrain longer than 15 years.

KSUN
KJAC
KBTM
KBZN
KMSO
KRNO
KHLN

There are a few for you to chew on.

Yeah in a E120 so what.