United Pilot Dies After Inflight Heart Attack

[Flopgut]

Hmmmmm = Just noticing you always have the strike breakers back...Interesting.

I no longer see any reason to have any less regard for them than I do you.

 

[sshrae]

It all goes back to the FAA medical process. It should be much more thorough and a much lower pass rate. In Japan less than 50% pass a medical the first time and it is just as difficult every time you take one. Time to toughen up the standards and enforce the process. RIP!!!

Toughen up the standards? Is an annual EKG not enough for you? Should we all have to go through a nuclear stress test every six months? Even a stress test can miss possible symptoms of a potential MI. When it comes to your heart there are a lot of potential issues that cannot be predicted without a multitude of regular invasive tests. Is that what you want?? I don't think so.

 

[eaglesview]

I no longer see any reason to have any less regard for them than I do you.

I love it when people confirm your suspicions for you. Makes things much easier.

 

[Flopgut]

I love it when people confirm your suspicions for you. Makes things much easier.

Ha! Go ahead and believe whatever makes you feel better.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Toughen up the standards? Is an annual EKG not enough for you? Should we all have to go through a nuclear stress test every six months? Even a stress test can miss possible symptoms of a potential MI. When it comes to your heart there are a lot of potential issues that cannot be predicted without a multitude of regular invasive tests. Is that what you want?? I don't think so.

Maybe what he wants are super stringent test that get every guy senior to him out on medical. Then maybe he wants to cut LTD so that it only covers you for 5 years (less chance of getting well and "sneaking back") in exchange for a couple dollars added to book rates.

Then maybe he realizes his strategy was a mistake when ...

No one knows for certain how healthy they are. No one.

 

[WYOMINGPILOT]

Toughen up the standards? Is an annual EKG not enough for you? Should we all have to go through a nuclear stress test every six months? Even a stress test can miss possible symptoms of a potential MI. When it comes to your heart there are a lot of potential issues that cannot be predicted without a multitude of regular invasive tests. Is that what you want?? I don't think so.

Yes toughen up the standards. No an EKG is not enough. In China every year you do an EKG, 24 EKG, treadmill stress test, 24 hour blood pressure test, blood and urine tests of over 40 items, heart color ultrasound test, some pilots do a minimally invasive Heart CT scan. In Japan only 50% of pilots pass the initial test and many are disqualified along the way. The Candy Arse FAA medical check IS the PROBLEM. If the process was toughened and the standards strictly enforced then many of these incidents would not be occurring.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Yes toughen up the standards. No an EKG is not enough. In China every year you do an EKG, 24 EKG, treadmill stress test, 24 hour blood pressure test, blood and urine tests of over 40 items, heart color ultrasound test, some pilots do a minimally invasive Heart CT scan. In Japan only 50% of pilots pass the initial test and many are disqualified along the way. The Candy Arse FAA medical check IS the PROBLEM. If the process was toughened and the standards strictly enforced then many of these incidents would not be occurring.

Although I agree with you in spirit, that would be impossible to implement in the states, huge discrimination liabilities and grounding a good 60% (provided some doctors take pitty on some fools) of all airlines fleets...! Look around, how many pilots walking around US airports that could skip a meal or two?

 

[WYOMINGPILOT]

I agree it will not change overnight but continuing the ridiculous PASS ANYBODY medical the FAA is currently using will continue to be the reason Pilots are dying at the controls. There is MUCH room for improvement and tightening up the standards perhaps an incremental phased in increase in testing and monitoring will be the solution that is acceptable. In China the CAAC Doctors will show up at your preflight briefing and ask you to take your blood pressure. If it is over the standard (140/90) then you do NOT fly that day, your grounded.

 

[laker4284]

The older you get, the odds go up. Probably exponentially if you are unhealthy or have hereditary/genetic dispositions.

Nope! One of the things CLEARLY to come out of the FAA's ARC was that the highest rate of heart issues came in the upper 40s up to mid 50s. An Israeli study showed the same thing.

We might as well stick to facts, right? ;-)

 

[laker4284]

Two CAL pilots died in the last month guys. Why do we make such a big deal out of it when they're over 60?

One guy was 51 and the other was 44. They might have had 10% the A plan money Skilern had. Maybe. Maybe they would have lived a little longer if they could have had a better schedule the last 5 years...


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Jeez , Flop. Shut the #%^#!%! up. A guy is dead and his family grieving. Hs age matters to one bit. There's plenty of pain to go around without you pissing into the puddle. Again.