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Getting furloughed is one thing....however getting furloughed because your company is contracting the flying out to the lowest or lower bidder....totally different. If those planes that get more flying have United colors on them, and are the reason the UA pilots are getting laid off.....they should get dibs on the LEFT SEAT.....the only reason your flying that RJ around is because of mainline....its not your flying, it belongs to United.
That's Fine. If mainline wants to fly these dammed RJ's they can go buy their own. If mainline wants to give the flying away due to poor buisness practices, you are entitled to nothing.
Skaff said:Lets hope that for your sake and for the industries sake that there is no furlogh and no regional growth.
. If we allow you to be in the right seat, you should be grateful, but with your attitude you probably wont be hired. .
How exactly do you not get hired at a regional these days? Do you have to die on the way out of the interview?
Why is a FO from another airline ENTITLED to a Captain position at mine? If they want a job flying, They can start in the right seat like anybody else would.
How about this novel concept-- f*** the 'express' carrier and that division of seniority. These problems you are all voicing is why it NEVER should have happened in the first place.
waveflyer said:Any new jet: set a payrate and it's flown by UAL pilots. Period. ... I can't even understand why the turboprops shouldn't be on the property...
waveflyer said:What in god's name has to be done to learn this lesson? To furlough guys when a company is taking on new airplanes is so INSANE it's ridiculous.
I don't disagree with you, but that ship has sailed.
Fine. UAL can go out and buy or lease the aircraft, put it on their ticket and fly it with pilots on UAL's seniority list. Or, if someone else buys or leases the aircraft and puts it on their own ticket, UAL can negotiate for the rights you seek.
Mainline management and mainline pilots get nothing automatically for planes owned or leased by someone else and flown by pilots on some other seniority list. You don't like it? Prepare to negotiate. Or tell your management you'll burn it to the ground if they don't negotiate what you want for you. Matters not to me.
It is insane. Why did mainline pilots agree to such an arrangement? But since they did, we have a situation that reminds me of the old bumper sticker I had on my '74 VW van:
Ass, gas, or grass: no one rides for free.