United Captain Off Loads F/A

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DATE:16/07/09
SOURCE:Flightglobal.com

United flight diverts after captain and flight attendant argue
By Kieran Daly


United Airlines is conducting an internal investigation after one of its captains diverted a flight to deplane a senior flight attendant who he argued with.
Flight 842 from Sao Paulo, Brazil to Chicago O'Hare diverted to Miami early in the morning of 14 July midway through the scheduled 6hr 45min non-stop flight.
A source familiar with the incident says the captain ordered the purser of the Boeing 767 to leave the aircraft because he was "not respecting his authority".
The aircraft was on the ground for about an hour and arrived at Chicago just over an hour late.
A United spokeswoman says: "The pilot chose to divert the flight due to a crew issue"."
The captain felt the matter needed to be resolved on the ground, an FAA spokesman says. The aircraft landed without incident in Miami and was on the ground for less than hour before departing to Chicago, he adds.
Exact details of the incident have not been disclosed and United is investigating the matter to make sure that the decision to divert the aircraft was appropriate, the FAA spokesman says.
At the same time, FAA is investigating the incident to ensure that all diversion procedures were followed, he says.
Representatives for the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA-CWA) and the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) chapters representing United flight attendants and pilots declined to comment as they did not have details about the incident.
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Mike man

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Good or him...if she was a problem then she should be off loaded and fired.
 

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Another Captain with a pair! Good for you!
 

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Captains authority gives him that right. F#@K the management, the FA's union and the company lawyers.

Good on ya', Capt.!

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Good or him...if she was a problem then she should be off loaded and fired.
I read the article and the lead FA was a guy. Did I miss something?
 

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Excellent. Sometimes they need their heels locked, and a simple chat just won't do.
 

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Who knows what happened. I do know everyone there is very stressed and very few enjoy their jobs. Tilton has just added to the misery. The job can be bad enough without your fellow employees adding to it.

I have witnessed some crazy things their such as FA's demanding a 2 hour delay so they miss their connection on the last day. That way they get to go home earlier. What is this industry coming to?

I would love to know the whole story on this one!!!
 

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I was just ready to say he didn't have the gas to haul her to ORD. Next time.
 

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Probably said he would tell the rest of the crew about the night before. being a quick thinker he diverted to get the guy off the plane
 

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My bad...she was indeed a he (I'm sure only in the since that the article referred to him as a he)...but I digress.


...if he was...
 

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This UAL pilot is now my HERO. We need more pilots like him! Move over Sully!!!!!!!!
 

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Man, I can't WAIT for someone to spill the beans on this deal! We need a little fun here!
 

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Take the following with a massive grain of salt. From airliners.net http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4485533/ and a poster who purports to be a UA FA.

Jamake1 said:
This is all I am going to say about this incident:

The Purser of flight 842 was female. The Captain of the flight wanted the general declaration so he could add his signature to it. The Purser was not in a position to grab another flight attendant right at that moment to monitor the area so the gen dec could be passed through the cockpit door. The situation escalated.

The Captain made the decision to divert to MIA to have the Purser removed from flight for undermining his Captain's Authority. The First Officers on flight 842 advocated for MCO, since MIA is no longer served by UA Mainline. The Captain chose to divert to MIA anyway.

The Purser was removed from the flight upon arrival at MIA and sent to a layover hotel, followed by a deadhead back to ORD after required crew rest.

The ORD-GRU-ORD trip was the Captain's first trip back to the line after extended sick leave. The Captain has been removed from the remainder of his flying schedule. The Purser who was removed, has NOT been removed from the remainder of her flying schedule.

Draw your own conclusions.
The entire meat of the situation is obscured by a throwaway line "the situation escalated." What was the middle part, I ask. I've had crew altercations that could easily be summed up in such a cursory way, when the key facts are redacted. I think Jamake1 needs his heels locked too.
 
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Take the following with a massive grain of salt. From airliners.net http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4485533/ and a poster who purports to be a UA FA.



The entire meat of the situation is obscured by a throwaway line "the situation escalated." What was the middle part, I ask. I've had crew altercations that could easily be summed up in such a cursory way, when the key facts are redacted. I think Jamake1 needs his heels locked too.

He yada yada'd me!

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