United Airlines

[chppr5]

With how many paxs and how many "tech" stops?

Obviously "never been wt restricted." was too much to comprehend.....

 

[Flopgut]

Obviously "never been wt restricted." was too much to comprehend.....

You brain surgeons do a real good job of mouthing off, but honestly, as far as being able to fly an airplane in a way that raises the mortgage, 90% of you are f-ing clueless. So spell it out: every seat full, every JS full, carry an alt Westbound/winter, never wt restricted? That's what you're telling him/us? Personally, I don't care what you say/think. Just know you ruined a pretty good airline, and try not to hurt anybody as you migrate into flying the former CAL destinations. Which aren't the same as where you've been wandering around in that pos bus.

 

[chppr5]

You brain surgeons do a real good job of mouthing off, but honestly, as far as being able to fly an airplane in a way that raises the mortgage, 90% of you are f-ing clueless. So spell it out: every seat full, every JS full, carry an alt Westbound/winter, never wt restricted? That's what you're telling him/us? Personally, I don't care what you say/think. Just know you ruined a pretty good airline, and try not to hurt anybody as you migrate into flying the former CAL destinations. Which aren't the same as where you've been wandering around in that pos bus.

You sound like an angry fella....If I couldn't fill all the seats and carry extra fuel I would be WEIGHT RESTRICTED......Would you like me to draw you a picture? As for ruining a pretty good airline you may want to look at the operation:
*Shares
*Jepp PBS
*CCS
*2 class service
*training by bulletin
*Pay banding
*And, drum roll please...............SMISEK!!
Thank you, I will be happy to wander around in the "pos bus" rather than the '65 chevy with new interior..

 

[Flopgut]

Not angry, simply disgusted. United could have merged with any airline and you would have drug them into the sh1tter. You're all so institutionalized you have no idea how awful your company is. Yeah, smisek came from CAL, but that's only because he was the only one stupid enough to want to go along with the merger. Kellner got a look at United and said "no way".

 

[eaglesview]

Ok fresh perspective......as a guy who has now worked on both sides of the fence your both right and both dead wrong. The Guppy is not running around weight restricted..neither did the Bus. The Bus is opviously more Advanced but the new Guppy wing is nice. As for which airline was better what does that matter now....truth is we all work for a crap carrier. This management team is awful. Ops on the CO side are just as screwed up or as good pending on perspective as UA side. Sermon over....carry on.

 

[Flopgut]

Ok fresh perspective......as a guy who has now worked on both sides of the fence your both right and both dead wrong. The Guppy is not running around weight restricted..neither did the Bus. The Bus is opviously more Advanced but the new Guppy wing is nice. As for which airline was better what does that matter now....truth is we all work for a crap carrier. This management team is awful. Ops on the CO side are just as screwed up or as good pending on perspective as UA side. Sermon over....carry on.

Good for you. Perhaps enjoy some Latin/South American flying again like you did at EAL. Maybe TDY GUM someday. Where in the former sUAL system does your sCAL counterparts find something fun and interesting to do? No flame. Seriously, what's going to open up on that side for our guys?

 

[eaglesview]

I am enjoying all of the flying my seniority affords me. I am planning on visiting all of those places you mentioned. The entire airline, except for the whale and sparky is open for all of us. You are wasting precious energy still fixating on "sides." My point for the previous post is this bantering about which of our former airlines was better or wether the Guppy or the Fifi is superior is a complete waste of time.

TDY GUM is on the radar. I have heard it is interesting flying there though I am not into the snakes.....time will tell.

 

[Andy]

Just know you ruined a pretty good airline, and try not to hurt anybody as you migrate into flying the former CAL destinations.

CAL was on a downhill roll since 2004 when Gordo was fired. Plenty of warts over there. Now the super regional mismanagement that was CAL is running a much larger combined airline. Extremely poorly.

Both sides had their warts premerger. To pretend that CAL was the bestest airline out there shows your inability to deal with reality. CAL wasn't even able to track pilot duty day, much less provide accurate paychecks. Funny, the errors on my paychecks have always gone in favor of the company.

CAL may have been a pretty good airline in 2004; by 2009 it was just another crappy airline. To describe it as anything else is facetious.

 

[Flyer1015]

CAL was on a downhill roll since 2004 when Gordo was fired. Plenty of warts over there. Now the super regional mismanagement that was CAL is running a much larger combined airline. Extremely poorly.

Both sides had their warts premerger. To pretend that CAL was the bestest airline out there shows your inability to deal with reality. CAL wasn't even able to track pilot duty day, much less provide accurate paychecks. Funny, the errors on my paychecks have always gone in favor of the company.

CAL may have been a pretty good airline in 2004; by 2009 it was just another crappy airline. To describe it as anything else is facetious.

What's your take on 1st quarter numbers?

 

[Andy]

What's your take on 1st quarter numbers?

Abysmal. I thank Smisek and the rest of the senior managers at United for the poor performance. If you spend the time looking at their bios, you'll see that most of them were with pre-2010 CAL. So these are the people who were running the 'pretty good airline' that Flopgut speaks of.

The combined airline rises to a level of incompetence that I have never witnessed at any previous employer.

 

[jonjuan]

So you are just thinking about applying?? I and thousands of others have had Aps in since the first week they were open to Aps, been to job fairs etc and now they are not even interviewing. so?? good luck, keep thinking.

So, it's first come, first served in regards to hiring? I'm sure all of the mil dudes wouldn't be too keen on that.

 

[Flopgut]

CAL was on a downhill roll since 2004 when Gordo was fired. Plenty of warts over there. Now the super regional mismanagement that was CAL is running a much larger combined airline. Extremely poorly.

Both sides had their warts premerger. To pretend that CAL was the bestest airline out there shows your inability to deal with reality. CAL wasn't even able to track pilot duty day, much less provide accurate paychecks. Funny, the errors on my paychecks have always gone in favor of the company.

CAL may have been a pretty good airline in 2004; by 2009 it was just another crappy airline. To describe it as anything else is facetious.

Fact: Larry Kellner was right. Enough said.

 

[densoo]

CAL may have been a pretty good airline in 2004; by 2009 it was just another crappy airline.

That's not what the passengers thought. But I guess that doesn't matter.

 

[Flopgut]

You are wasting precious energy still fixating on "sides."

Wasting time? I'm not doing anything you haven't already done yourself. Just like you I'm looking at what new possibilities there might be, and there really aren't any coming from my direction. It's not even a matter of seniority. The flying sUAL brought to the merger is boring compared to sCAL. What am I missing? What's the best BES in the sub UAL system for either a senior FO or junior CA?

 

[eaglesview]

Wasting time? I'm not doing anything you haven't already done yourself. Just like you I'm looking at what new possibilities there might be, and there really aren't any coming from my direction. It's not even a matter of seniority. The flying sUAL brought to the merger is boring compared to sCAL. What am I missing? What's the best BES in the sub UAL system for either a senior FO or junior CA?

Type of flying that is "boring or exciting" would be a matter of personal preference, sort of like looking at art. If you think the exciting flying is on the Guppy then I would suggest staying there. If you want to do something else bid it. Two large airlines merged, surely you can find something that you like. If all of the sub UA is boring to you.......don't bid it. It's pretty much as simple as that. You always have the option of Sparky if you prefer that. Not sure what else I can say.

FWIW....During the short time I have been on the Guppy I have been to SJU and PUJ. Interestingly enough I flew those trips out of either IAD or ORD. These are the same flights I flew on the Bus. Would the fact that UCH put the Guppy be on the same routes "UAL" pilots flew be the fault of sub UAL pilots? This plays into my statement that it's too late to take sides....it's over.