United Airlines runs off runway after fire?

[On Your Six]

C'mon guys! Haven't you figured out a way to blame SW for this incident yet? You guys are really slipping!

Nah, SWA can't be blamed for this one, they already paid the press off with a huge pizza party, with leftover pizza from the previous "ATC bribe" party. You SWA pilots finally see that your ridiculously hard landings to make sure you make the reverse or first turn off has finally shown itself in an Aloha style accident. But what are you guys saying? It's Boeing's fault....... Riiight.



OYS

 

[SWA/FO]

Good Job UAL dudes...have a beer on me (after you talk to the Family, NTSB, UAL, ALPA and required drug test)

as Lear70 would post: :beer:

 

[RJ Bum]

nice job fellas!!!!!! :beer: :beer:

 

[UAL-GSO]

Well done - if you are familiar with that runway and the characteristics of an overweight Airbus with no electrics, you know that could have been really ugly. You just can't beat a well trained, mainline crew...

 

[Golden Falcon]

Well done - if you are familiar with that runway and the characteristics of an overweight Airbus with no electrics, you know that could have been really ugly. You just can't beat a well trained, mainline crew...

first of all...great job gentleman....

A) mainline??? what does this have to do with it??

B) NO electrics?? nothing works....had something powered somewhere for sure unless they landed it in mechanical backup...even then....

either way...great job...

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Good Job UAL Crew...just like the SWA crew!!!!

Isn't this the second UAL A320 to have a total electrical failure (TPA 2009?) and the crew was able to bring it around safe?? Kudos to both, but somebody needs to get into MX auditing to see if this is systemic, like SWA.

 

[instructordude]

Does anybody where they landed in the touchdown zone and possibly the speed?

 

[elcid]

"Complete loss of instruments" or on standby instruments? Just wondering. I'm not sure how you fly a PAR in IMC with no instruments. Does the airbus have an ISIS? Either way, nice job. Glad everyone is safe. These things come in three's. We're two down. Be safe out there.

 

[Bringupthebird]

"Complete loss of instruments" or on standby instruments? Just wondering. I'm not sure how you fly a PAR in IMC with no instruments.

Wet compass, AI, airspeed and altimeter. Vive la France!

 

[ackattacker]

"Complete loss of instruments" or on standby instruments? Just wondering. I'm not sure how you fly a PAR in IMC with no instruments. Does the airbus have an ISIS? Either way, nice job. Glad everyone is safe. These things come in three's. We're two down. Be safe out there.

I think that beyond what's on the tapes any further real info is going to take a while. I'm guessing "complete loss of instruments" probably is not completely accurate but could be loss of the primary flight displays, which implies AC buses 1 and 2 and AC Ess are lost. Obviously they still had some buses active since they were communicating with ATC but it's highly likely that they were in a severely degraded state which could impact normal braking, spoilers, and reverse as well.

For those curious about the quirks of the airbus electrical system, the following read is enlightening:

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/4-2009_G-EZAC.pdf

 

[Stifler's Mom]

http://mobile.nola.com/advnola/pm_29227/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=YiQaZt1R

There is ATC audio here.

 

[Golden Falcon]

Wet compass, AI, airspeed and altimeter. Vive la France!

Our new 320's are indeed equipped with ISIS....

 

[Mr.B]

Just listened to the ATC Tape, Kudos to the crew, sounds like they did have their hands full.

Yes they did. It will come out that these gentlemen did a stellar job and saved many lives.

 

[list2002]

(i'm sure someone will find a way to mention sw when it has nothing to do with the story)

--wtg--

 

[dougdrvr]

"Complete loss of instruments" or on standby instruments? Just wondering. I'm not sure how you fly a PAR in IMC with no instruments. Does the airbus have an ISIS? Either way, nice job. Glad everyone is safe. These things come in three's. We're two down. Be safe out there.

Complete loss of instruments is also code for "losing all the magenta stuff"