FLYLOW22
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I don't think B19 can find a NJA pilot who will attest that the Union has not positively influenced his/her life.
I don't think that B19 will find a member of Upper Management at NJA that will say the Union has not been an excellent entity that communicates with the pilot force, enhances efficiency, creates productivity and positively affects the bottom line WHILE making record profits.
These are the facts.
He can shove his golden egg up his holier than thou ass. Bawk, bawk you turkey.
There is no sense in strangling the golden goose when the bird wants to share profits and future growth.
UAL's management team of 2000 and the pilot force there were decades opposed to each other. Both sides were in their rights to negotiate what they could.
You also forget to mention that Capt. Rick Dubinsky was on the UAL Board of Directors (Management) at the time of the 2000 contract.
Management signed the contract as sure as the Union did.
Don't blame labor. Blame the parties who agreed to it. Blame the RLA, a broken set of rules for a broken industry.
Don't blame only labor.
The world isn't as simple as you make it in your little world.
BTW, I've talked to Mad Dog several times. I found him to be as level headed as they come. I never once found him to be a push over though.
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			I don't think that B19 will find a member of Upper Management at NJA that will say the Union has not been an excellent entity that communicates with the pilot force, enhances efficiency, creates productivity and positively affects the bottom line WHILE making record profits.
These are the facts.
He can shove his golden egg up his holier than thou ass. Bawk, bawk you turkey.
There is no sense in strangling the golden goose when the bird wants to share profits and future growth.
UAL's management team of 2000 and the pilot force there were decades opposed to each other. Both sides were in their rights to negotiate what they could.
You also forget to mention that Capt. Rick Dubinsky was on the UAL Board of Directors (Management) at the time of the 2000 contract.
Management signed the contract as sure as the Union did.
Don't blame labor. Blame the parties who agreed to it. Blame the RLA, a broken set of rules for a broken industry.
Don't blame only labor.
The world isn't as simple as you make it in your little world.
BTW, I've talked to Mad Dog several times. I found him to be as level headed as they come. I never once found him to be a push over though.
 
 
		 
 
		 
  Bawk, bawk you turkey. :laugh: The turkey is a handsome bird, though, so maybe that isn't ugly enough to match his posts. Picture a vulture endlessly circling, dropping FUD on the unwary while he vengefully waits for the demise of a union. I think that description is more fitting.
 Bawk, bawk you turkey. :laugh: The turkey is a handsome bird, though, so maybe that isn't ugly enough to match his posts. Picture a vulture endlessly circling, dropping FUD on the unwary while he vengefully waits for the demise of a union. I think that description is more fitting. 
 
		 After all you're one of those greedy NJ FOs who had the nerve to want to support his family on the earnings of a professional pilot.
 After all you're one of those greedy NJ FOs who had the nerve to want to support his family on the earnings of a professional pilot.  The NJ pilots always knew the money is there to pay them as the professionals they are. When my husband was an FO he flew pax from New York to California and the price they paid was more than his base salary for the entire year! To suggest, even indirectly as B19/CL did, that NJ pilots are draining company resources is absurd. Ending labor strife in 2005 brought record profits. IBB in '07 was a smart business move: keep the pilots motivated and retain the talent they had in the FOs who were still underpaid and forced to fly from only 5 cities. Recruitment has improved and attrition should no longer be a problem. Good things are happening at NJA and the Union is a full and welcome partner in the process.
 The NJ pilots always knew the money is there to pay them as the professionals they are. When my husband was an FO he flew pax from New York to California and the price they paid was more than his base salary for the entire year! To suggest, even indirectly as B19/CL did, that NJ pilots are draining company resources is absurd. Ending labor strife in 2005 brought record profits. IBB in '07 was a smart business move: keep the pilots motivated and retain the talent they had in the FOs who were still underpaid and forced to fly from only 5 cities. Recruitment has improved and attrition should no longer be a problem. Good things are happening at NJA and the Union is a full and welcome partner in the process. 
 
		 
  
 
		 
			
		 
			
		 
			
		 
			
		