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flyingmonkey said:
Things are looking a little better here at UAL....
60 to be called back in March, with 200+ more to follow in 2006. I did hear that UAL expects to offer recall to EVERYONE by 2/2007. (those that want to come back will be able to by then)
Lots of talk about a Freighter division, we hired an ex-VP from Atlas/Polar and he has really grown our freight (just in cargo on the PAX side) rumor is a 747-400 all cargo bird soon (oh-yeah and FLOWN BY UAL PILOTS and not wet leased)
Good luck guys, and hang in there the call will come soon!
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Sonny Crockett said:
Sonny, that sounds like great news but where did it come from? With 60 to be called back in March and 200 more to follow in 2006 that leaves recall offers to approximately 1500 in January and February of 2007. Imagine those class sizes! Been waiting over 4 years for the call. Feels like its getting close.
Guppydriver
Guppydriver, let's take a look at the numbers. Current 8 ball = 7774. Junior furloughee = 8915. That's 1141 that haven't been called yet.
Bypass/mil lv/LOA rate has been somewhere around 60%. As we get deeper, I'd expect the numbers to increase, but let's say it stays at 60%. It would take 457 slots to go through the list first pass.
Let's say that 257 are recalled for class in 2006, leaving another 200 recalls to go through the list.
There are a number of ways to slice & dice the 2007 info. Don't forget that it takes about 3 months from the time you're recalled until you start class. Kentang4 is a perfect example of this. That being the case, a different way to phrase it is that #8915 should be offered a class date no later than May 2007. I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption.
I'm about 500 from recall (and about 650 from the bottom of the list); I'm estimating that the call will likely occur late summer/early fall 2006 for a winter class date. I will exercise the mil leave option. I don't plan on returning until mid 2009, at which time I hope to be able to get a 777/400 FO position so that I can doze for dollars. I haven't flown an aircraft since fall 2002. My PI will be earning his paycheck. There are plenty others like me who will stay off property for a LONG time.
Bypass/mil lv/LOA rate has been somewhere around 60%. As we get deeper, I'd expect the numbers to increase, but let's say it stays at 60%. It would take 457 slots to go through the list first pass.
Let's say that 257 are recalled for class in 2006, leaving another 200 recalls to go through the list.
There are a number of ways to slice & dice the 2007 info. Don't forget that it takes about 3 months from the time you're recalled until you start class. Kentang4 is a perfect example of this. That being the case, a different way to phrase it is that #8915 should be offered a class date no later than May 2007. I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption.
I'm about 500 from recall (and about 650 from the bottom of the list); I'm estimating that the call will likely occur late summer/early fall 2006 for a winter class date. I will exercise the mil leave option. I don't plan on returning until mid 2009, at which time I hope to be able to get a 777/400 FO position so that I can doze for dollars. I haven't flown an aircraft since fall 2002. My PI will be earning his paycheck. There are plenty others like me who will stay off property for a LONG time.
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After you get recalled and submit your paperwork, how long before you find out what you get from your BidReq preferenced (e.g. Airbus to SFO, etc...)? Does that process change if you go on mil leave?
Also, say I get a 737, but go mil leave and never go to training. I can continue to bid for other aircraft and domiciles while on mil leave, right??
Also, say I get a 737, but go mil leave and never go to training. I can continue to bid for other aircraft and domiciles while on mil leave, right??
Huggyu2 said:
Huggy,
I got my equipment and domicile over the phone with Bob Neil. He looked at my class date and relative seniority and told me what I was senior enough to hold. I told him what I wanted, and he made it happen. Give him a call. He's has always returned my calls, and has never given me the impression that I was bothering him with all my questions.
After you've accepted recall, and taken your Mil LOA, the Domicile you've been awarded is the Domicile you need to work with. Bob will send you a welcome back letter and a bidreq sheet. The letter tells you that if you want to have a permanent bid entered into unimatic, contact your Domicile, and they will enter it for you. You are eligible to participate in vacancy bids while on LOA.
Hog
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