UAL/CAL one step closer

[flygirlqt]

I was referring to the CAL pilot in the video. If you can't keep up, leave.

I guess the my earler reference to post 58 on post 71 taxed your reading comprehension and split that comb over didn't it?

Hooters? That explains the intelligence.

Well, my intelligence just got me through my first semester at Georgetown Law School. Where did you do your post graduate work? TK? :laugh:

 

[pipe]

As an outsider looking in, I must point out the irony that CAL's contract and rules are almost as good as everyone else's -- after bankruptcy. Don't worry about the fall from your high horse -- it's a really short fall.

PIPE

 

[EWR_FO]

As an outsider looking in, I must point out the irony that CAL's contract and rules are almost as good as everyone else's -- after bankruptcy. Don't worry about the fall from your high horse -- it's a really short fall.

PIPE

Our company didn't need bankruptcy to accomplish the same thing. They used the liars and thieves running CALALPA at the time to float the "idea" of bankruptcy. The threat of furloughs/A-plan loss was enough to get a majority to swallow this POS without that pesky bankruptcy thing. It disgusted me.

There has been a slow, methodical, housecleaning since then. It is still progressing at a snail's pace because so many of these parasites are firmly entrenched in their cushy flight pay loss positions, but it IS happening.

CAL has played ALL their fear cards and are now left with a young, fairly junior, and extremely pissed off group who aren't buying into the BS any more. There are still a bunch of spineless pussies working here who will piss their pants at the thought of confrontation, you could find most of them sleeping in a IAH crew room last week. It appears that, finally, they are the exception rather than the norm and are slowly retiring.

We have been our own worst enemy but I am cautiously optimistic that it is FINALLY changing.

 

[pipe]

For the sake of everyone in the industry, I hope you are right.

Your explanation raises two questions though? 1) How did CALALPA get that way to begin with? and 2) What part of that history is giving the CAL folks on this board such an air of smug superiority toward their UAL "union brothers"?

PIPE

 

[Mr.B]

I guess the my earler reference to post 58 on post 71 taxed your reading comprehension and split that comb over didn't it?



Well, my intelligence just got me through my first semester at Georgetown Law School. Where did you do your post graduate work? TK? :laugh:

I highly doubt anyone from Georgetown Law spends their free time talking trash on FI. Hooter skank? A different story. I'm through with you.

PS....It's "earlier" counselor.

 

[flygirlqt]

For the sake of everyone in the industry, I hope you are right.

Your explanation raises two questions though?

1) How did CALALPA get that way to begin with? and

2) What part of that history is giving the CAL folks on this board such an air of smug superiority toward their UAL "union brothers"?

PIPE

Air of smugness? Christ what do you call some of Lucky's diatribe?

Just a question for you though since none of the UAL folks want to answer it. What do you think the retired UAL union brothers think about the current make up of the UAL pilot group?

 

[flygirlqt]

I highly doubt anyone from Georgetown Law spends their free time talking trash on FI.

I have still have a CAL seniority number and schools out. I actually don't care what you believe so we are even.

Hooter skank? A different story. I'm through with you.

Hooters skank? You must be gay then. No problem ...to each his own.

PS....It's "earlier" counselor.

Another spelling troll :laugh:. I 'll be careful next time with spell check

 

[cal73cap]

UAL/CAL Merger announced in 2009.

My bet is April-June-July timeframe........

I can't wait to fly with Capt Kahn

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1L07z6D91g

Is that you Flygirl? Math is hard huh? LOL!

One of our most despised Captains. I have yet to meet a copilot that enjoys flying with her.

 

[pipe]

Air of smugness? Christ what do you call some of Lucky's diatribe?

Just a question for you though since none of the UAL folks want to answer it. What do you think the retired UAL union brothers think about the current make up of the UAL pilot group?

Personally I don't think either group has a makeup or a record that puts them in a position to cast aspersions on anyone. I'm not sure what you're getting at about the UA retirees. The UAL MEC gave up huge amounts of pay and work rules to try to save the pension and the judge took it anyway. What else did you think they should have done? Maybe you don't understand what went on.

PIPE

 

[pipe]

One of our most despised Captains. I have yet to meet a copilot that enjoys flying with her.

You're just jealous of Capt. Kahn's awesome shirt. Is that seriously what the cal gals have to wear?

PIPE

 

[Flopgut]

One of our most despised Captains. I have yet to meet a copilot that enjoys flying with her.

When I was a copilot I liked flying with her.

She's a striker. That trumps all weird proclivities IMHO.

At least she gives a dam.

 

[Pocono Pilot]

LOL, that must have been a sight to see all the CAL pilots sleeping in the crew room. All the white socks peeking out from under the blue inflight smallpox-infested-blankets. LOL

I'll bet the crews all smelled nice and ripe the next day during the flights. Oh my!!! LOL

If flygirlqt was in the crew room that night, she probably made a fortune servicing all the guys. hehe

Oh, and law school... Um, yeah, right LOL

That's a good one. LOL

 

[EWR_FO]

For the sake of everyone in the industry, I hope you are right.

Your explanation raises two questions though? 1) How did CALALPA get that way to begin with? and 2) What part of that history is giving the CAL folks on this board such an air of smug superiority toward their UAL "union brothers"?

PIPE

1) An old DC-10 CA I flew with frequently, who was a full term striker, a student of labor-management relations, and one of the main forces in bringing a union back to CO, told me that unless you get the best and brightest to run for, and be elected to, union positions- having a union is worthless. We did not do that and, to make matters worse, a small demographic managed to get elected in IAH and GUM. Those two bases voting together (along with some help from CLE and the flight instructors) were able to stack the MEC makeup which, literally, neutralized any change that was attempted from within.

After a recall movement slowly started to purge some of the spineless parasites out, some things started to change. It has been an extremely slow go but when the new leadership from EWR takes office in March, they will hold the upper hand in any roll call vote (because it is now the biggest base) which can be called for anything BUT the election/recall of MEC officers.

2) I don't have an answer for that and some of the stuff I read here makes me cringe. After nineteen years I have seen how quickly things can change and never really understood the "mine is better than yours" mentality. I know there are some guys who bring up the "torque" campaign and "one less airline can make a difference" thing but there are very few people left at United who were there at that time. I do know that if there IS a merger, life will go on.

 

[CALnTX]

Wow, I can't get over the fact that CAL pilots slept in the crew room, and then went to work the next day!!!!

There is something chronically wrong with that place.

Im sure NOBODY at any other other airline has EVER slept in a crew room during severe weather ops.

My buddy commutes to BWI for SWA and doesnt have a crashpapd and is to much of a tightwad to splurge for hotels....he doesnt sleep under a bridge either.

 

[Hvy]

Crockett was a guy, maybe that went over your head and it was too difficult for you.

Tell you what though..when I was putting myself through school working at Hooters, I modeled on one of their calenders. So grab some tissues and have fun with that.

Reading your posts...I'd bet that most guys wouldn't want to get much closer to you than a calender photo.