Don't do that, you'll screw up the flow. In the remarks section of the flight plan, put "no SIDS no STARS". That way, you wont get assigned one in the 1st lace and things go much smoother for ATC. ATC will assume, and rightfully so, that you are STAR/SID capable unless you note otherwise. Don't wait until after the fact to let them know you in fact are not.Capthuff said:with the GNS do you still file /L and just decline the DP or STAR if assigned?