Twin engine down near downtown ATL

[ATL2CDG]

In the same way, I think some people attempt to use tidbits of the uniquely British vocabulary in a vain attempt to make themselves seem more intelligent than they really are.

Not quite the case for me, Tony, but very good observation, nonetheless.

ATL, there is no reason to spell that way. "American English" is basically a separate language to "International English." We spell words correctly here in the US, the Euros and Australians speak a different version of the language and both spell and prounounce differently.

There's no prohibition against it, either. Unless I'm in a university classroom, there really isn't a guide by which to measure American English. From carelessly typed up signs in stores "Where Every Word Is Capitalised" to piss-poor puncuation and spelling, everyday Americana is rife with poor grammar and a lack of knowledge about the English language. Unlike numerous other countries throughout the world, the U.S. has no government body charged with "maintaining" the national langauge; in fact, the United States does not have an official language. As such, we are free to butcher the language or revert to another form thereof, such as the Queen's English, with little concern. Were I to find myself in a creative writing course at university, then I would, of course, consult the professor about his/her opinions on the subject and modify my work accordingly.

There is nothing wrong with using the American language.

I never said there was anything wrong with speaking or writing in American English; it's just something I choose not to do from time to time. Language, in both written and oral form, is a means of self-expression and is an important tool in the conveyance of ideas. Granted, I've been reading several works by British authors as of late, so I've been exposed to more British English than American English in the written form. The gods know that when I move back into American literature, I'll start to type/write in American English again. In any case, why are you making such a big deal out of it? Does the form of the English language that I choose to use in any way diminish the content or context of my posts?

Do you talk with a fake British accent, too?

Not often, no. But I do recall one flight a few years ago when coming back to Atlanta from Worcester, Mass. I was quite bored and in a bit of a thespian mood, so I announced to the guys up from that I would be conducting the entirety of flight, announcements and all, in a British accent. The guys didn't think I could pull it off, but sure enough, from the first passenger on to the last passenger off, I slung around a quite convincing cockney accent. I even topped of the delivery of the drinks to the passengers with an enthusiastic "Cheers!" Fortunately, no one went so far as to ask from what part of England I came ("Uhhhh, London? Yeah, London. What part? Uhhhh, south London.") I used to be able to do it quite well, but I've not hung around Ailerongirl in quite some time, so I'm out of practise.

Anyway, "that's all he wrote... "

 

[TonyC]

From carelessly typed up signs in stores "Where Every Word Is Capitalised" to piss-poor puncuation and spelling, everyday Americana is rife with poor grammar and a lack of knowledge about the English language.

Is that the British spelling of "punctuation"?

The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search box to the right.

Suggestions for puncuation:

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Does the form of the English language that I choose to use in any way diminish the content or context of my posts?

As a matter of fact, yes. For the reasons stated in posts above, putting on the air of intelligence just makes you look ridiculous. It raises suspicion about everything you say. If the ideas you espouse are unworthy of standing on their own, attempting to bolster them with some fake accent only draws closer attention and more careful scrutiny to them. Rather than making you look or seem more intelligent, it only makes you look silly.


Oh, and by the way . . . around here it's "capitalized" with a zee (not a zed), not an ess. Unless, of course, you're Ailerongirl.

Now . . . since you brought her into the discussion . . .

I know Ailerongirl. Ailerongirl is a friend of mine. And you're no Ailerongirl.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Yes. I believe he was referring to the poor, down-trodden, welfare-mooching, uneducated, civicly-disinterested black population that not only makes up the majority of the City's citizenry, but also controls the corrupt government, major local broadcast networks and a plethora of small businesses.
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Such a brave man you are. Since you used to work for ASA, why don't you stop by the "Bada Bing Lounge" below D26 and spit out these comments to some of your former coworkers? I'd love to see their response.

 

[ATL2CDG]

Is that the British spelling of "punctuation"?

D@mn. I type a post half drunk at 0300 without using the d@mn spellchecker and I get reamed by TonyC. That's not the least bit surprising, now is it?

I know Ailerongirl. Ailerongirl is a friend of mine. And you're no Ailerongirl.

Quite right. I've never claimed to be Ailerongirl; I could never match her physical beauty, social graces or intellectual prowess. I'm just a fat-arsed American with no sense of self-identity and rabid passion to p!ss people off.

Such a brave man you are. Since you used to work for ASA, why don't you stop by the "Bada Bing Lounge" below D26 and spit out these comments to some of your former coworkers? I'd love to see their response.

Sorry, but I don't play with regional boys and girls anymore. Just kidding.

Actually, a good portion of the ASA ramp personnel are the epitomy of what I dispise about Atlanta. Many are lazy, unmotivated, drug-using and uneducated with no sense of duty to one's work. Granted, there are people like Wally and others that bust there arse to make the company look good, but given that ASA pays minimun wage, more or less, one can't quite expect passionate, professional people to fill the ranks. In any case, just I would not foolishly walk into a country-western bar and yell, "NASCAR sucks!", I don't think I'll be visiting your famed "Bada Bing Lounge" anytime soon to espouse my social views.

 

[Kingairrick]

Doesn't it seem like the French have, like, different word for everything? The Brits don't even know what side of the road on which to drive. What's with that? Is Alierongirl really hot, or just sort of hot?

These are the real issues...

 

[surplus1]

Oh, and by the way . . . around here it's "capitalized" with a zee (not a zed), not an ess.

Just for the record TonyC the language is English, not American. There's a dialect known as American but there is no such langauge. A "zed" is a "zed" whether or not you like it and it's not color it's colour.

Why do you have to be so trivial? I say old chap you're quite trite.

 

[rumpletumbler]

Why is there nothing on the NTSB monthly synopses page about this yet?

 

[TonyC]

Just for the record TonyC the language is English, not American. There's a dialect known as American but there is no such langauge. A "zed" is a "zed" whether or not you like it and it's not color it's colour.

Why do you have to be so trivial? I say old chap you're quite trite.

hey surplus1,

What gives you the idea I'm old?


Wasn't it that prime minister fella that observed the US and Great Britain are 2 countries separated by a common language?


I've got no problem with Brits talkin' Brit, and Mexicans talking Spanish, but it really rubs me wrong when we can't speak our own brand of English in our own country. I know it's polite to say "por favor" and "de nada" in Mexica City, I don't expect "biscuits" for breakfast in Cambridge, and I never ask for a napkin there. But, by golly, I want biscuits with my breakfast here, and I'll need several napkins.


We were (well I was, anyway) just pickin' on ATL2CDG for acting like someone/something he's not. And while geography as it pertains to the internet is ambiguous at best, he knows where I am, and I know where he is, and we don't got no zeds in between!

You can have your zeds, and I'll keep my zees, and this is color ! ! !






(Sorry for the late response, I've been on the road with lousy dial-ups, and just lost track of the thread.)

 

[metrodriver]

I do have to agree with ATL2CDG on the mindset of the majority of the african-american population. After all the effort MLK put in (and even dying for it) to get the a-a masses into main stream america it hurts to see the current generation trying to move away from it all: own language (ghettonese) that nobody else can understand (good way to keep you separated), own "music", you wear pants about 5 sizes too big so you have to grab your balls to keep them up, stick a comb in your hair. Buy a $200.- piece of junk car, put $2000.- rims on it, install a $5000.- stereo that wakes up an entire city block (got to spend the dope money on something).
If I had my own business and had to hire someone, I rather take the foreigner trying to speak english than the a-a guy who refuses.
And don't forget: it's all the white mans fault...
An African friend of mine once told me: I'm not black, I'm african. I'm better than they are. I work towards my goals without help. They have the help but don't work.
Ever noticed that the a-a that are in respectable positions don't talk ebonics, often don't even want to associate with the general a-a community anymore? I wonder why.

Maybe I sound racist. I'm not. But I'm getting pretty frustrated sometimes

 

[TDTURBO]

I do have to agree with ATL2CDG on the mindset of the majority of the african-american population. After all the effort MLK put in (and even dying for it) to get the a-a masses into main stream america it hurts to see the current generation trying to move away from it all: own language (ghettonese) that nobody else can understand (good way to keep you separated), own "music", you wear pants about 5 sizes too big so you have to grab your balls to keep them up, stick a comb in your hair. Buy a $200.- piece of junk car, put $2000.- rims on it, install a $5000.- stereo that wakes up an entire city block (got to spend the dope money on something).
If I had my own business and had to hire someone, I rather take the foreigner trying to speak english than the a-a guy who refuses.
And don't forget: it's all the white mans fault...
An African friend of mine once told me: I'm not black, I'm african. I'm better than they are. I work towards my goals without help. They have the help but don't work.
Ever noticed that the a-a that are in respectable positions don't talk ebonics, often don't even want to associate with the general a-a community anymore? I wonder why.

Maybe I sound racist. I'm not. But I'm getting pretty frustrated sometimes

Amen to that!

I can go on and on but what good would it do?

The white population that attempts to emulate this behavior is even worse.

 

[rumpletumbler]

Bill Cosby understands what you are talking about.

 

[minitour]

The white population that attempts to emulate this behavior is even worse.

Word to that!

er....

 

[rumpletumbler]

here it is.........

NTSB Identification: ATL05FA010
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Tuesday, October 19, 2004 in Atlanta, GA
Aircraft: Beech B-55, registration: N322WW
Injuries: 2 Fatal.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On October 19, 2004 at 1054 eastern daylight time, a twin engine Beech Baron B-55, N322WW, registered to and operated by J&R Aircraft Inc., collided with the ground and burst into flames in front of an automotive repair shop near the Martin Luther King Center in Atlanta, Georgia. The personal flight operated under the provisions of Title 14 CFR Part 91. Instrument meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident and a flight plan was filed. The airplane was substantially damaged. The instrument rated private pilot and passenger were fatally injured. The personal flight departed DeKalb-Peachtree (PDK) Airport in Chamblee, Georgia on October 19, 2004 at 1045.

According to the FAA, the pilot was issued departure information for a south departure to Venice, Florida. About seven miles south of PDK, the pilot reported that he was in trouble. The departure controller immediately issued the pilot radar vector information for an eastbound heading, but the pilot never responded to the radar vector information. Shortly afterward, radio and radar contact was lost. Witnesses in the vicinity of the accident site reported seeing the airplane spinning out of the clouds in a flat attitude. A review of weather data and witness reports reveal that low clouds, fog, heavy rain and thunderstorm activity were in the area at the time of the accident.

Examination of the accident site revealed that the airplane wreckage was scattered over an area 40 feet long and 38 feet wide. The airplane wreckage was adjacent to an automotive repair shop with debris from the right wing resting on the roof. Both the airplane and building sustained fire damage. The airplane rested in the upright position. The cockpit and cabin areas of the airframe were badly fire damaged.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20041101X01728&key=1