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I guess your right, with SWAPA doing such a fine job looking out for the future of the profession, age 65 and all..... I love the Johnny-come-lately ALPA slammers who work for a company that spent the better part of the 70's-90's slowly dragging down the pilot compensation through low rates, no pension, and no retiree medical care. After ALPA is forced to comply with the terms SWAPA has arranged for the profession through concessions at the hands of a BK court, airline failures, etc, then you come on here to chastise and belittle. Enjoy SWAPA's time at the top of the pax payscales, I sincerely hope it lasts your whole career, but just remember, your only #1 until your not.


Amen. I cant ever remember reading words that ring so true. I am not slinging mud, just the facts man.
 
You probably never had any intention of leaving TWA either. It's a tough business and anyone who blames ALPA for all the forces aligned to take away power, pay and benefits from pilots should spend a little time "educating themselves about the facts".

Fact: TWA was robbed blind for over a decade by Icahn and others and was a mere shell of its former self. The contract sucked as did the route structure (compared to the glory days). This weakened condition led to the vulnerability that brings the sharks to the door. Whether or not there was any real viable option will not be known. I wanted to fly there since 1967 and was sorry to see them go, but blaming ALPA is a fools errand.
 
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Truth,

I don't think anyone is blaming ALPA for TWA not being around anymore. I think the gripe is that after 70 years of TWA pilots paying dues to ALPA, they really should have represented us better in the American SLI. Regardless of what you think the outcome would have been, I believe that they owed it to us to try.
 
You probably never had any intention of leaving TWA either. It's a tough business and anyone who blames ALPA for all the forces aligned to take away power, pay and benefits from pilots should spend a little time "educating themselves about the facts".

Fact: TWA was robbed blind for over a decade by Icahn and others and was a mere shell of its former self. The contract sucked as did the route structure (compared to the glory days). This weakened condition led to the vulnerability that brings the sharks to the door. Whether or not there was any real viable option will not be known. I wanted to fly there since 1967 and was sorry to see them go, but blaming ALPA is a fools errand.

The sharks are indeed alpo National, and no, I am not running a fools errand putting the blame squarely on alpo. That is precisely where it belongs and that is why the lawsuit against them has not been thrown out of court. Take your own advice and get educated. This is unbelievable. I give up.
 
A union is made up of elected pilots from your own company so be it swapa or alpa they are no better than those who chose to get involved.
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Is it true that members of all alpa carrier do not vote for their mec chair just their lec positions. I was under the understanding that the lec then appoints the mec chairman is this correct?

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Is it true that members of all alpa carrier do not vote for their mec chair just their lec positions. I was under the understanding that the lec then appoints the mec chairman is this correct?

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That would make sense wouldn't it, otherwise, one large base would always rule them all....
Sort of like the electoral college. It's a representative democracy.
 
The sharks are indeed alpo National, and no, I am not running a fools errand putting the blame squarely on alpo. That is precisely where it belongs and that is why the lawsuit against them has not been thrown out of court. Take your own advice and get educated. This is unbelievable. I give up.

I truly hope that you can one day find some inner peace. You were probably a real peach to fly with in an APA cockpit. Lord knows you hold some venom for ALPA. Please see your doc prior to the AAI SLI results, as that may actually push you over the edge.
You are correct, the court will hear the arguments and rule. I hope you can enjoy your life if things don't go your way.
 
Juan Trippe? And all this time I thought he ran Pan Am.


Your right.

Lindbergh was a special adviser to Juan Trippe for PanAm in the 60's. I reversed it.

I'm sure TWA was mentioned once .... Over dinner .... maybe ? :0

I ate a lead pencil when I was four. Never been the same.
 
.. A union is made up of elected pilots from your own company so be it swapa or alpa they are no better than those who chose to get involved. ..

That's the most profitable lie ALPA ever sold. They thought it was really cool until we actually got involved and voted their bloated a$$e$ off the property.

You ought to try membership ratification. It's a union thing, unless your ALPO.:D
 
Trial date set for June 6.


It's the D-Day anniversary.

"You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have
striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you."


General Dwight D. Eisenhower
 

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