TWA Flt 800

[DC10]

If it really was a random mechanical failure why would the CIA take immediate control of the investigation and prevent the NTSB from conducting their own investigation?

The CIA released an almost comical, propaganda rich re-creation of what they claim happened and then prevented any witnesses from testifying who saw anything that didn't agree with the CIA's 'findings'.

Explosive residue was detected on many pieces of wreckage, which were never seen again after the CIA removed them to another location and stated that their own testing on those items showed no residue.

This was absolutely not a fair, unbiased investigation of an accident. The documentary reinforces doubts that many of us have always had about this. It's very apparent that the official findings were made up and that evidence was found to back up their theory, not the other way around.

 

[PCL_128]

If it really was a random mechanical failure why would the CIA take immediate control of the investigation and prevent the NTSB from conducting their own investigation?

Because that's what they always do whenever there is a possibility that terrorism or a criminal act was involved. As soon as it was determined that such acts weren't involved, the investigation was handed back over to the NTSB. That's exactly how the system has always been setup.

The CIA released an almost comical, propaganda rich re-creation of what they claim happened and then prevented any witnesses from testifying who saw anything that didn't agree with the CIA's 'findings'.

The re-creation that they put together fits with the evidence in the case. Sorry.

Explosive residue was detected on many pieces of wreckage, which were never seen again after the CIA removed them to another location and stated that their own testing on those items showed no residue.

False. The NTSB openly admits that explosive residue (in tiny amounts) was found on bits of the wreckage. They did an investigation to figure out what could have caused it, since there was absolutely no signs whatsoever that an explosive actually detonated in or near the aircraft. They found records that clearly showed that the airplane was used for the training of bomb-sniffing dogs, and explosives were hidden all over the aircraft to teach the dogs how to find them. Trace amounts of that residue remained, which explains why it was found in the wreckage, while there was no evidence of an explosive actually detonating.

The documentary reinforces doubts that many of us have always had about this.

The documentary does what every crackpot conspiracy theory does: it presupposes a cause, and then goes looking for things that might be twisted to fit that predetermined cause. This is in stark contrast to the real investigation, which searched for actual facts and evidence, and then determined what the evidence indicated was the most probable cause.

 

[Dan Roman]

we've got blond-headed NSA beach geeks selling out our secrets, Seals selling their Osama story even though they know the mission was classified, so no, I don't think a 747 conspiracy would remain under wraps very long. I'm with Jmntxas, I wish our government was as good as to hide this type of conspiracy.

This sums it up.

 

[Dan Roman]

Could you name a couple ?

Off the top of my head without even thinking about it (or googling)......Pan Am 707 holding near PHL back in the 60's I believe.

 

[slaquer5]

Off the top of my head without even thinking about it (or googling)......Pan Am 707 holding near PHL back in the 60's I believe.

The airliner was on a flight from Baltimore to Philadelphia. The aircraft was in a holding pattern along with 5 other planes when the control tower received a Mayday message. The plane was seen going down in flames. Lightning induced ignition of fuel tank vapors. Within two weeks after the accident, the FAA ordered lightning discharge wicks to be installed on all commercial jet airliners.


Not exactly a random explosion . I might be wrong but it was clear and a million w TWA.

 

[glasspilot1]

DC10: It was the FBI, not the CIA that was handed the job that the NTSB normally would have conducted. The NTSB knows how to conduct an investigation in the transportation industry (yes, they do railroad and other investigations). The FBI was sent in to cover Clintons a$$. The CIA was the agency that made up the "cartoon" "zoom" climb video that was shown at the NTSB "hearings" in late 1997.

There is no question the center wing tank exploded. The question is: What caused it? The government vaguely said "It probably was faulty wiring in the tank". Many witnesses saw something that looked like a missile heading toward TWA 800. Some of those witnesses were VERY credible, the most credible was a National Guard/Army Vietnam vet helicopter pilot on a training mission over Long Island who later said: "I've seen missiles shot at me, I've seen missiles shot at other guys. What I saw that night was a missile"!

PCL, it's so easy to say the governments always right, everybody else is an idiot.

 

[THEPRFCT10]

Off the top of my head without even thinking about it (or googling)......Pan Am 707 holding near PHL back in the 60's I believe.

It was a lightning strike. I lived right near the crash site

 

[Dan Roman]

I do recall static wicks coming out of that one. In fact, I remember reading about it in A Robert Serling book. Another A/C actually saw the lightning hit and the A/C explode. They were both in a holding pattern.
As I recall, a min of 500lbs fuel in any empty tank was put out by the FAA after TWA 800 as a completely empty tank is prone to create fumes.

 

[PCL_128]

PCL, it's so easy to say the governments always right, everybody else is an idiot.

Actually, it's a lot easier to ignore facts and science and believe a bunch of crackpots. So have fun with that.

 

[Crucianpilot]

Did you even watch the documentary? Plenty of facts in it my friend so stop trying to call everyone who doesn't agree with your idea a crackpot. You must have been on the friggin panel for the investigation the way you keep talking about it. You sound like the pot calling the kettle black.