TWA Flt 800

[waveflyer]

All of that has been answered by the investigators. None of it is new. Do some more research. This stuff is as crazy as the 9/11 "truthers."

So watch the video and answer the questions-
I'll do my research and look into it further- but I really hope you don't father any kids with that response.
Why?
Because I said!

Dude we're adults here. There aren't nearly the number of credible witnesses on the truthers side willing to step in front of a camera and say their piece

You can say it's been answered, but i haven't heard the answer and haven't found anything definitive on the net. What's up with the CIA video?

Why would the CIA be charged with producing a video on an airline accident?
Why would they be involved at all?
NASA I get. FAA I could understand. Aviation consultants. But the CIA -
You got to know that's weird

Why was the FBI in charge instead of the ntsb?

What about the radar images consistent with a rapid explosion, instead of the relatively slow one a center tank explosion would produce?

Now, philosophically, I'm with you on conspiracy theories.
I believe they are a waste of time. Even if they're real. That's just reality. Power exists and sometimes that power is wielded - it improves my life none to fight things I cannot control.
But we have some responsibility as citizens to not just go along to get along if a story is being created.
This one's always smelled to me-

So I'll do my research- but if you have answers easy and verifiable- share em up.
But you a) have to admit that it is very unusual to have 700+ witnesses describe an object ascend to twa 800. You have to admit there's been many accidents, and it's unusual to have one descend into conspiracy theory. So why this one?
B) you can't just spout the "company line" assertively, not answering the questions that surround it, and expect it to be accepted.

So if you know, say the piece.

Or did you just expect me to think "oh, Pcl says it's crazy conspiracy- I feel better now"

 

[Nindiri]

All of that has been answered by the investigators. None of it is new. Do some more research. This stuff is as crazy as the 9/11 "truthers."

That's just what a member of the conspiracy would say.

 

[St. Nic]

Had a FAA inspector on the JS many years ago- ex twa mechanic. He wasn't allowed on scene two days after the accident because it was declared a crime scene by the FBI.
Hmmmmmn

 

[DieselDragRacer]

Just thinking out loud, Clinton didn't exactly have a reputation for retaliating against terrorism. The WTC bombing, USS Cole and Mogadishu come to mind.

 

[PCL_128]

So watch the video

Nope. Time is precious. I'm not wasting it on nonsense.

I'll do my research and look into it further- but I really hope you don't father any kids with that response.
Why?
Because I said!

First, I hate kids, so don't worry about that. Second, that wasn't my response. My response was "the questions have already been answered, do your own research."

 

[SENECAII]

That's just what a member of the conspiracy would say.

and that is just what a sheep would say. lol

I find it funny how these folks say they dont have time or wont watch conspiracy theory drivel yet i am sure they find time and or will watch an Adam Sandler or Jim Carey movie a dozen times.lol (not that there is anything wrong with Adam Sandler or Jim Carey movies)

 

[rumpletumbler]

TWA 800 never existed. It was created to mask the malfunction of a weather balloon.

 

[SENECAII]

TWA 800 never existed. It was created to mask the malfunction of a weather balloon.

I would watch that movie too.We must admit,we have wasted much more time on lesser movie flicks and we had to spend ten bucks on a movie ticket to watch someone else's perception of comedy,drama,horror,fiction , non fiction,etc etc.

 

[Dan Roman]

TWA 800 never existed. It was created to mask the malfunction of a weather balloon.

True statement, but you left out the fact that the balloon had been in the Bermuda Triangle, in addition, it was one of the original balloons used to stage the faked moon landing......a lot of people don't know that.

 

[SENECAII]

True statement, but you left out the fact that the balloon had been in the Bermuda Triangle, in addition, it was one of the original balloons used to stage the faked moon landing......a lot of people don't know that.

Now I would definitely pay full price to see that movie and I would even splurge and buy a large popcorn with extra butter as well.

 

[inline]

Just thinking out loud, Clinton didn't exactly have a reputation for retaliating against terrorism. The WTC bombing, USS Cole and Mogadishu come to mind.

Yep. Way to busy chasing a fat 22 year old intern around the oval office for a b# to care about any pesky muslim terrorists.

 

[Tripower455]

Nope. Time is precious. I'm not wasting it on nonsense.

Now that's funny.......

 

[HowardBorden]

Nope. Time is precious. I'm not wasting it on nonsense.

Considering you have well over 13,000 posts to an anonymous web board, I beg to differ.

 

[waveflyer]

Considering you have well over 13,000 posts to an anonymous web board, I beg to differ.

Exactly
I thought i'd already posted that that was no excuse between either of us

 

[Aaron Sheets]

Re: TWA Flight 800 Findings



It took decades to find out the Maddox and Turner Joy weren't really
attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin which saddled us with an unpopular war.

I don't know what happened but it appears a new investigation is warranted.

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The Investigation was "continued" after the Judges ruling, against the Safety Board for Fraud, and then new FOIA, New Radar, FAA radio transcripts, and other public records have now determined what actually occurred that night, which brought the flight down, at 8:32 pm on 7-17-96. You may listen to two interviews. (1.) spreaker/aaron sheets the mystery of twa flight 800
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[Aaron Sheets]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/twa-flight-800-crash-investigation-ntsb-141624708.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/1...ak-silence-in-new-documentary-claim-original/

TWA Flight 800 crash not due to gas tank explosion, say former investigators
By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Lookout ? 1 hr 48 mins ago

The producers of an upcoming documentary on TWA Flight 800?which exploded and crashed into the waters off Long Island, N.Y., on July 17, 1996, killing all 230 people on board?claim to have proof that an explosion outside the Paris-bound flight caused the crash. And six former investigators who took part in the film say there was a cover-up and want the case reopened.
"There was a lack of coordination and willful denial of information," Hank Hughes, a senior accident investigator for the National Transportation Safety Board, said on Wednesday during a conference call with reporters. "There were 755 witnesses. At no time was information provided by the witnesses shared by the FBI."
Jim Speer, an accident investigator at the time of the crash for the Airline Pilots Association, who sifted through the recovered wreckage in a hangar, said he discovered holes consistent with those that would be formed by a high-energy blast in the right wing. He requested it be tested for explosives. When the test came back positive, he said, he was "physically removed" from a room by two CIA agents.
They would not speculate on the reasons for the alleged coverup.
After a four-year investigation, the NTSB concluded the plane was destroyed by a center fuel tank explosion likely caused by a spark from faulty wiring.
But according to Tom Stalcup, a co-producer of the documentary, the investigators have new "radar and forensic evidence proving that one or more ordnance explosions outside the aircraft caused the crash." The film will premiere on EPIX on July 17, the 17th anniversary of the crash.
"These investigators were not allowed to speak to the public or refute any comments made by their superiors and/or NTSB and FBI officials about their work at the time of the official investigation," a news release announcing the documentary said. "They waited until after retirement to reveal how the official conclusion by the (NTSB) was falsified and lay out their case."
The investigators filed a petition to the NTSB calling for a new probe. The NTSB had said it would review any petition related to the 1996 crash, which touched off one of the most complex air disaster investigations in U.S. history.
The CIA and FBI conducted a parallel investigation to determine if a bomb or missile had brought down the plane.
Dozens of eyewitnesses in the Long Island area "recalled seeing something resembling a flare or firework ascend and culminate in an explosion," the CIA said in a 2008 report. "Had the crash been the result of state-sponsored terrorism, it would have been considered an act of war." Also from the report:
The CIA responded to the FBI?s request within 24 hours of the crash. This support consisted primarily of help from the Counterterrorist Center in the Directorate of Operations and from a small group of analysts in the Office of Weapons, Technology and Proliferation in the Directorate of Intelligence.
But after an eight-month investigation, the CIA "concluded with confidence and full substantiation that the eyewitnesses had not seen a missile."
The CIA's deputy director of intelligence wrote in a 1997 memo,"Our analysis demonstrates that the eyewitness sightings of greatest concern to us?the ones originally interpreted to be of a possible missile attack?took place after the first of several explosions aboard the aircraft."
"We went back and interviewed these people and found them to be quite credible," Hughes said on Wednesday.
He added: "We have no hidden agenda here; we just want the truth."

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[Aaron Sheets]

Yes.



I added the emphasis because it exactly confirms my direct personal experience with 18 years of professional study of and experience with surface-to-air and air-to-air weapons

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