Turbine PIC as FO

[Gandalf]

Um, hello, I'm the only one IN COMMAND! I wish guys like you who interviewed and thought they knew all the rules would lite up and take a chill pill. Its all in my friends logbook and he'll get to be at a major a lot faster than most regional FOs who dont log it!

Your "friend" sir, is a tool. You can't log 121 PIC unless, as others have stated, if you sign the can(the airplane flight log)...ie....the one responsible for the flight.

It doesn't matter if it is in "his" logbook, or if "he" says it is right, or if "he" thinks this will allow "him" to bypass the rest of us. "He" is full of donkey dung.

It is wrong. It is illegal.

Oh, and by the way, just like others said...."He" really thinks that an interviewer at a major won't pick up on this.....

Hmmm, lets see looking through your logbook...... 1.4 SIC, 1.2 SIC, .3 PIC, 1.3 SIC, - Huhhh....WTF????

Hey, lets see your license.....WTF??? There's no type rating.....Hmmmm.....See Ya!

There is a thing called PRIA....if the interviewer doesn't pick up this crap from the logbook or licenses (which they will), the records will show that "he" is not typed and has been logging time illegally and "he" will be shown the door very, very quickly.

Yeahh.....And I've got 3000 hours PIC on MS FlightSim in a 747......I guess I am going to Paris this week.......

Gd help us all if there are tools out there that actually think like this. Gd help us all if there are tools that believe tools like this.

 

[Mr Wu]

Did the thread on Jet Careers get locked?

 

[N1VIBS]

LOL I guess so is about every other person I know then. Look it's simple buddy. We're flying alone. If my friend isnt checked out in the airplane then what does that SIC mean???!! It means he's dual qualified for controls. my friend even said one time he was kidding with the flight attendant and said something like, if I'm now the PIC I guess that makes you the SIC! Where's your logbook so you can log it! LOL!!! he just wrote the details on a paper for her so when she buys her logbook like she said she would she can log it correctly. look, flight time is flight time and the FAA cannot even debate that. who is flying if its not PIC? no one?! LOL[/quot

OK guys and girls, I think he got us!! This has to be flamebait or a joke. No one could be that stupid (could they?).

 

[35off]

may not be fake

I have actually had newbee pilots speak like this guy.

Read your regs. If an aircraft requires a type you must actually be typed to be a PIC. SIC does not cut it.

Also, if you look at the applications at most airlines they will have an asterik and it will state "PIC time only if you signed for the aircraft". So even if the FAA liked this rediculous FO logic the company your are applying to is stopping you with their requirement of PIC.

Oh and I agree HAHAHAHAHAHA f ing hilarious.

 

[topdawg]

When the Capt goes to the bathroom on any aircraft that im jump seating on, I log it as PIC. Im the next cloest to the Capt seat so that must make me pilot in command. Im up to 16.3 hours in a 777 and never even had to land it. I log actual too when I use the lav. because I have no outside visual references.

 

[Freeze_gopher]

Just stop.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

This is good, but no one will ever top the guy who posted an ad in his job description on his resume.

 

[regionalcap]

Man, some of you are gullible. This guy starts these flaimebait threads all the time.

 

[QOL_is_great:)]

R U F@%*ing kiddin' all of us??

I was wondering what are some ways to get some turbine PIC as an FO. Obviously when the CA goes to the bathroom to make #2 you can get a lot, but sometimes there are other ways like if you need to keep the eng. running to hot fueling and the CA leaves the 'pit. What are some other ways thou? A friend is up to 22.7 hours of turbine PIC and he is still a 2 year FO, I want to get some someday. At this rate he wont have to upgrade he can just take that PIC to another airlines thats not a regional.

If you are 100% straight faced when writing this stupid question? If you are then you may really want to look into another line of work.
Yes, you can quote the FARs and talk about logging "PIC" time as soul "sh%&head" touching the controls. Think about it son. The interviewer will and I say will see right thru your logbook. Good bye job at another airline that is not a regional, as you said.
I conducted interviews in a past life for a regional and you'll have some explaining to do. Trust me.
You are not the pilot on the blame line and for this you get no PIC time and yet still pass go and collect your FO pay check.
Not to mention if you don't get caught, hired by another airline and then have an accident you'll have some explaining to do. Once your paperwork is researched and discovered you fudged your paperwork could result in you having your certificates revoked. Worse case.
Your upgrade will come and the treasured PIC time will flow. Then you can apply to one of three majors or eight nationals that out live the crap going on.

 

[414Flyer]

I thought it was pretty blatant it was not actually serious...But whats funnier, someone asking if they can log PIC with the Capt is in the lav, or someone who thinks it is a serious question and writes a long response

 

[Papa Woody]

I was wondering what are some ways to get some turbine PIC as an FO. Obviously when the CA goes to the bathroom to make #2 you can get a lot, but sometimes there are other ways like if you need to keep the eng. running to hot fueling and the CA leaves the 'pit. What are some other ways thou? A friend is up to 22.7 hours of turbine PIC and he is still a 2 year FO, I want to get some someday. At this rate he wont have to upgrade he can just take that PIC to another airlines thats not a regional.

Good point. I shoulda stayed an FO and invited all my Captains to take extended dumps, replete with courtesy-flushes and coupon-laden Sunday Timeses.

Dang! Why didn't I think of this? I coulda been off reserve 3 years ago!

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Hmm guess I shoud go get that 30 hours of OE re-logged since I was listed and typed as captain dispite clear statement in the FOM that the LCA IS the PIC and signed the log and release the entire time. But at least I haven't needed to hit the head as to not confuse any of my FO's, man is this really still any kind of issue, really uke:

 

[NoJoy]

Yep- you have to sign for the plane to log PIC time. So if your a CA on IOE-you get to log SIC time, because your Check Airman is the actual PIC. Of course every 121 pilot knows this-(it's a little tricky for both pilots to log PIC at the same time)

 

[Long Time Gone]

I liked the part about him logging PIC while hot-fueling and the PIC not being in the cockpit.

I guess my oldest son can now go outside, fire up the 172, and let it idle for 8 hours. He can now log that as solo PIC since he was the only one out there, right? Now all he needs is the long cross country, and he's set.

 

[Rotorhead1]

This idiot is out of his fricking mind.