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one would think that since this is the unions proposal to the company that dario has already signed it and now we just wait and see if RL will sign it.
 
millhouse21 said:
As usual, when something significant is going on TSA Lounge is down. Somebody clearly doesn't want us discussing this apparent Blowjet settlement there so let's talk about it here. Any waterskiers out there? What do you think?


I think the union, the company, and alpa national are about to bend the pilot group over once again.

F-ck alpa
 
airjackson said:
and who, in your opinion, would serve us better?

I am not sure of that, but how much worse can it get? Extension after extension? NEVER voting on a contract and then after rejecting a shoot!y offer, being faced with mec ratification of essentially the same offer. That scenario has been played out how many times, over the past 10-15 years?

Our leaders get terminated, one by one, and alpa national does NOTHING. TSH engages in union busting and alpa national does not care. They only want us to ratify any deal, to add several hundred more pilots to the list and grow their dues. THEY CARE ABOUT NOTHING ELSE. ALPA's interest is not ours. We must decertify and move on. ALPA is a total and complete failure and guilty of breach of trust.

And don't tell me we won't have access to those wonderful RESOURCES of ALPA. They haven't meant anything to us, they have not improved our lot one iota. US airways mec didn't even know about scabjet. Give me a fuc!ing break. ALPA is a failure and must be cast aside. Time for new leadership and a new beginning.
 
redbook said:
I am not sure of that, but how much worse can it get? Extension after extension? NEVER voting on a contract and then after rejecting a shoot!y offer, being faced with mec ratification of essentially the same offer. That scenario has been played out how many times, over the past 10-15 years?

Our leaders get terminated, one by one, and alpa national does NOTHING. TSH engages in union busting and alpa national does not care. They only want us to ratify any deal, to add several hundred more pilots to the list and grow their dues. THEY CARE ABOUT NOTHING ELSE. ALPA's interest is not ours. We must decertify and move on. ALPA is a total and complete failure and guilty of breach of trust.

And don't tell me we won't have access to those wonderful RESOURCES of ALPA. They haven't meant anything to us, they have not improved our lot one iota. US airways mec didn't even know about scabjet. Give me a fuc!ing break. ALPA is a failure and must be cast aside. Time for new leadership and a new beginning.

Redbook,
I agree with you except that you seem to be blaming our MEC for the failings mentioned above. If you say ALPA national sold us out; I am with you 100%. If you say the company hates our guts and would like nothing better than to fire us all and replace us with the lowest bidder; I agree. What does that have to do with DM? Nothing, he at least has not sold us out.

When will it end? I don't know. Will we ever have a new contract? Apparently not. What do we do? I don't know. However, I do know that blaming our MEC for this will not help.
 
I heard that the new proposal is most likely gonna pass. Also heard that the J41 crews will be getting displaced to the CRJ 700 sometime soon.

I also heard that the new proposal is the exact same thing that we voted down a few months ago. The only thing that is better is that it is going to be a 3 year extention instead of 4 years.
 
millhouse21 said:
Redbook,
I agree with you except that you seem to be blaming our MEC for the failings mentioned above. If you say ALPA national sold us out; I am with you 100%. If you say the company hates our guts and would like nothing better than to fire us all and replace us with the lowest bidder; I agree. What does that have to do with DM? Nothing, he at least has not sold us out.

When will it end? I don't know. Will we ever have a new contract? Apparently not. What do we do? I don't know. However, I do know that blaming our MEC for this will not help.

We are on the same page, as are most tsa pilots with any sense. I don't blame the mec, but I do disagree with their policy of "screw it, we didn't get a good deal, so lets ratify a sh!!ty one". VOTE. Then we can only blame ourselves. I want that new contract you speak of.
 
great cornholio said:
Also heard that the J41 crews will be getting displaced to the CRJ 700 sometime soon.

I thought I'd never say this but "that is NOT funny." Well, maybe it's a little funny.
 
millhouse21 said:
I thought I'd never say this but "that is NOT funny." Well, maybe it's a little funny.

Yeah I know. I'm not trying to be funny. I really did hear that rumor today. It does make sense I guess. If they displace the EMB guys to the CRJ 700 then displace the 41 guys to the EMB that is way too much training so I could easily see them displacing the 41 guys straight to the CRJ 700. Plus I heard that the other company is getting 20 more planes by the end of the year. So they are gonna need CRJ pilots soon.
 
That is not the answer I wanted to hear. It would be pretty ironic if we both ended up wearing ************************* badges in a few months.... I'm not sure how I would deal with that.
 

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