Trans States Getting ATRs

[rjet24]

Trans States seems to be going back in time. They are looking at getting ATRs again. WTF.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

source?

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Oh God no...

...so does this mean that if I apply right now I might get the ATR or would they start getting them like in March or something?

 

[Foxcow]

Oh God no...

...so does this mean that if I apply right now I might get the ATR or would they start getting them like in March or something?

Whats wrong with the ATR?

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Whats wrong with the ATR?

In retrospect I overreacted but there was a reason AMR and ASA keep the ATRs in the lower latitudes...

 

[Foxcow]

In retrospect I overreacted but there was a reason AMR and ASA keep the ATRs in the lower latitudes...

Because they are turboprops and they don't have a reason to go any higher. TSA used to have J31s, J32s (I think), J41s, ATR42s and ATR72s.

 

[rjet24]

The source was an internal memo sent out stating there was going to be an ATR at Signiture Flight Services across the field at STL on OCT 3, as a static display and then a demo ride for anyone interested. There has been speculation as to when and really if we are going to get these planes, but MX seems to think we are getting them and they will be used for some of our short haul stuff out of STL maybe for United out of IAD. Who knows if this will happen, just have the memo and some rumors going around for now.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

I shoulda just stayed quiet....

 

[PCL_128]

A turboprop! Noooooo! The new pilots of today are too good for turboprops!

At least it's a round turboprop. Those square airplanes are just freaky.

 

[zasca]

Foxcow, Saluki was referring to ATR's famed(if not overblown) lawn dart reputation when in iciing...

 

[JSky26]

Oh God no...

...so does this mean that if I apply right now I might get the ATR or would they start getting them like in March or something?

....sigh....SJS

 

[JetSpeed219]

At least it's a round turboprop. Those square airplanes are just freaky.

Hey now, the Shorts does not deserve that kind of talk.

 

[T-prop]

Hey now, the Shorts does not deserve that kind of talk.

Ah, the box the saab came in...

 

[T-prop]

Foxcow, Saluki was referring to ATR's famed(if not overblown) lawn dart reputation when in iciing...

If you fly any airplane in severe icing conditions for 20 minutes with your flaps down, below the recommended icing speed, and not turn on the airframe deice for the first 5 minutes... of course it will turn into a lawn dart when you lose it and attempt a 3 G pullout at 125kts above VMO.

Definitely an overblown reputation. Especially, when you consider the mistakes made and the modifications that have been made since.

 

[siucavflight]

I would have given anythng to fly the ATR out of SJU for Eagle, unfortunatly the only aircraft available in the class was the EMB. The ATR is a fantastic airplane.
And Saluki the reason why they keep them at the lower altitudes is because they are turboprops. What is the problem you see with the ATR?

 

[OzBushWhacker]

Remember that when the last plastic embraer or CRJ are retired.... they will pick up the crew in a turboprop!

 

[Inconceivable]

Kids--

he didn't say ALTITUDES he said LATITUDES

those lines on a globe?

at not so subtle reference to ATR icing and Roselawn, IL.

for those of you who have not been in aviation more than a minute

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Foxcow, Saluki was referring to ATR's famed(if not overblown) lawn dart reputation when in iciing...

Way overblown. Flew 'em in the ice and it does just fine.

 

[BoilerUP]

Kids--

he didn't say ALTITUDES he said LATITUDES

those lines on a globe?

at not so subtle reference to ATR icing and Roselawn, IL.

for those of you who have not been in aviation more than a minute

"It's those changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes
Nothing remains quite the same
With all of our running and all of our cunning,
If we couldn't laugh, we would all go insane."

 

[Cpt Oveur]

the ATR made major modifications after the American Eagle accident from what I read. The de-ice boots were totally redesigned, and placed further back along the leading edge. Mountain Air Cargo and other Fedex Feeders fly them into northern states all the time, although mostly we've gone to aiports in latin america and south america with them. It's a great airplane either way. burns a heck of a lot less fuel than the Dash 8-400.