Tough Choice--SWA or UPS?

SWA or UPS?

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Please don't flame me!! I am in the fortunate position of having to choose between UPS and SWA. I am in the pool for both and will probably take the first one to give me a class date.

I have 5 factors that I think are important: Job security, pay, benefits, quality of life, and culture. I give Brown the edge on job security and benefits and SWA the nod on quality of life and corporate culture. The last factor is pay. SWA is much better now, especially considering the money you lose at Brown during the first year. But if the new contract comes through, maybe UPS will have the better pay.

Like I said, I am in the pool for both and have at least a few weeks to entertain conjecture. NAy inputs?
 
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SWA or UPS?

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To be hoonest, I would trade both for FedEx! FedEx is the best of both UPS and SWA. Job security, great pay and relatively quick upgrade. I just don't have a sponser!
 

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I'd go with UPS any day.

No PFT, more types, more routes, international flying, better pay....you name it.

Congrats and best of luck!
 

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Still, the lifestyle is way better at UPS, at least that's what I think. If you have a family and only want to fly in the 48, stay with SWA.

I think those are two very different comanies, and they choice should be easy depending on what the person wants.
 

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SWA or UPS? said:
To be hoonest, I would trade both for FedEx! FedEx is the best of both UPS and SWA. Job security, great pay and relatively quick upgrade. I just don't have a sponser!


" I just don't have a sponser!"

I'll be your sponser,,,havent had a drink in 3 in years
 

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Flechas said:
I'd go with UPS any day.

No PFT, more types, more routes, international flying, better pay....you name it.

Congrats and best of luck!

You name it ,,,NO SLEEEEEP

P.S have you seen what the average 40 year old coming out of the Lazy Boy room looks like at UPS? Trust me, the LUV is gone in Louisville at 3AM.
 
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WillowRunVortex said:
You name it ,,,NO SLEEEEEP

To each their own. If flying at night is not your cup of tea, SWA is the way to go. I enjoy doing red eyes for example, some people can't stay up.
 

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interesting position to be in...

i could give you the my opinion but it is really useless to you. you know what is important to you and your family and what will make you happy.

(ok--arm twisted--go to swa--you have already stated that fedex is better than ups so i say go there--really don't want you here in the cockpit bitch'n about what you should of and could of done--save yourself and poss. me the headache--thanks in advance)

best of luck on your choice

fbt
 

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WillowRunVortex said:
P.S have you seen what the average 40 year old coming out of the Lazy Boy room looks like at UPS? Trust me, the LUV is gone in Louisville at 3AM.

Everyone I have seen looks fine.

Of course you are going to look like you are tired in the middle of the night.

Getting up at 3am for a 5am show and flying all day is not a peach either.
 

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Fact: 40% of UPS flying is during day light.

Fact: UPS made 3.3 billion last year, saying 15-20% growth yearly.

Fact: Boxes DO NOT bitch...take it from some one who delt with 11, yes 11 medical emergencies last year for ailing pax.

The rest, my fellow aviator is QOL. Best of luck on your decision.
 

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Flechas said:
To each their own. If flying at night is not your cup of tea, SWA is the way to go. I enjoy doing red eyes for example, some people can't stay up.

Enjoying the ocassional red eye is far different then signing up for continuous red eyes the rest of your career. It is a proven fact that the quality of our sleep suffers if it is to be accomplished during the day.

Just me, I couldnt do it for twice the pay.
 
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Dude, I'd go with UPS if I were you. They will be getting the A-380!!!! Imagine how cool it would be to fly that thing!!!!
 

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787 said:
Fact: 40% of UPS flying is during day light.

Fact: UPS made 3.3 billion last year, saying 15-20% growth yearly.

Fact: Boxes DO NOT bitch...take it from some one who delt with 11, yes 11 medical emergencies last year for ailing pax.

The rest, my fellow aviator is QOL. Best of luck on your decision.

Fact: you will not so much as have one subtle flirtation from some pretty young thing bringing you your lunch @UPS!
 

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WillowRunVortex said:
Enjoying the ocassional red eye is far different then signing up for continuous red eyes the rest of your career. It is a proven fact that the quality of our sleep suffers if it is to be accomplished during the day.

Just me, I couldnt do it for twice the pay.

Like I said, to each their own. I get more tired flying during the day.
 

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WillowRunVortex said:
Fact: you will not so much as have one subtle flirtation from some pretty young thing bringing you your lunch @UPS!


And where would this be? As far as I'm concerned all the lunch I get (And most people here I'm sure) comes from either a dying woman, or a gay dude.
 

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Flechas said:
And where would this be? As far as I'm concerned all the lunch I get (And most people here I'm sure) comes from either a dying woman, or a gay dude.

LOL,,,I hear ya,,,but it does happen on occassion
 

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Flechas said:
And where would this be? As far as I'm concerned all the lunch I get (And most people here I'm sure) comes from either a dying woman, or a gay dude.

Or one so big that only the arm fits through the cockpit door. I'm taking it you're Houston based, Flechas?
 

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WillowRunVortex said:
LOL,,,I hear ya,,,but it does happen on occassion


It's called "small town syndrome" After a while everything looks really good!
 
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