Top Ten Reasons You Should Never Come To Mesa

[camyz125]

9 of 10 is wrong. They do pay for hotel.

 

[Soverytired]

9 of 10 is wrong. They do pay for hotel.

I believe this is an example of:

"damning with faint praise"

-or-

"a backhanded compliment"


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(Mesa recently changed the "pay for your own hotel, fool" policy as an enticement to those dumb or desperate enough to take a job there)

 

[ehaecker]

Reason number 11: You will be eaten by a hammerhead shark

 

[dirkdigler]

At Mesa, "GO AROUND IS NOT AN OPTION."

 

[bailey3083]

Do I get to wear my backpack, spike my hair, wear my oakleys and listen to my iPod in the terminal? Kewl sign me Up! SJS All The Way!

Bailey

 

[bmpilot2003]

I just hope they sand my piece of ply-wood so i don't get splinters when i sleep on it at night!!!!

 

[Radiohofo]

Perfect place for Jay Keen from pdt...

 

[CRJ2008]

"
I just hope they sand my piece of ply-wood so i don't get splinters when i sleep on it at night!!!! "

Deam Hillarious !!! same as with current Position and the cat avatar is killing me I cant stop Laughing

 

[pdub20s]

TOP 10 REASONS NEVER TO COME TO MESA​

• SELF RESPECT

-Every regional is hiring at this very moment. Not mention you are doing yourself
and your fellow pilots a disservice by working at Mesa. Why would anyone
settle for substandard working conditions and pay.

• ONE OF THE WORST CONTRACTS IN THE INDUSTRY

-only 8 days off/bid
-first and second year FO pay is the lowest in the regionals
-no cancellation pay
-no duty/trip rigs
-management continually violates the contract
-5th year CA pay is $61/hr for the CRJ-200
-Skywest 64, AWAC 68, PSA 68,

• SOME OF THE LONGEST UPGRADE TIMES IN THE INDUSTRY

-CRJ BNA-2001, CLT 2001, PHX 2000, ORD 2003, IAD 2004
-ERJ ATL 2004, IAD 2004, MCO 2004

• NO QUALITY OF LIFE

-Constant Junior Manning due to lack of crews and poor planning by management
-1900 domiciles continually open and close every couple of months resulting in constant displacements and extra costs to employees because of breaking rental contracts. Many of the 1900 bases are not commutable
-Many pilots only get 4-6 days at home each bid even if they live in domicile
-Many pilots can’t pay the bills because they receive no cx pay especially in ORD

• THE HIGHEST LATERAL ATTRITION IN THE INDUSTRY

-Mesa has lost nearly 600 pilots through September, most are FO leaving to go to other regionals. While you may think this will allow you to upgrade faster, you would be absolutely wrong! Mesa is holding back upgrades for months and delaying upgrades altogether.
-Mesa will have over 250 out of 1600 pilots time out in Nov/Dec because of all the Junior Manning.
-Pilots are fedup and ready to burn this place to the ground

• MESA’S FINANCIAL HEALTH IS IN SERIOUS DECLINE

-Mesa’s stock price is at a 52 week low and going lower putting them in position for a hostile takeover
-GO! is absolutely sucking the company dry…over $122 million lost in the past year
-Hawaiian has brough an $177 million lawsuit against Mesa that will result in GO! going out of business and possibly a significant fine in the 10s of millions

• HOME TO THE MOST CORRUPT CEO IN AMERICA

-Need I say more…JO has been convicted of SEC violations and continually takes pleasure in destroying pilot morale

• YOU ARE REQUIRED TO SIGN A TRAINING CONTRACT

-after 6 months when you realize this the worst place to work in the U.S and you’re ready to take all that great jet time with you to another regional they come after you for thousands of dollars and attempt to ruin your credit.

• YOU MUST PAY FOR YOUR HOTEL DURING TRAINING

-That’s right…you pay for your hotel! You can forget about making money for 2 months because you’ll be paying for meals and hotels.

• MESA IS GRADUALLY MOVING FLYING TO CHINA

-The first CRJ has already arrived and JO has already stated that one day in the near future he could see Mesa as exclusively an international company.

Your a Effin idiot. you obviously dont work for mesa. The last upgraded capt was JFK:hired July 2005 and 17 more just started ground school.

Hotel is paid for in training....

you a ****************************** if you think all flying is going to China...

why dont you just take a seat and stop reading old info

 

[go!ng for broke]

What does Mesa, J.O., and Federal Bankruptcy Court all have in common?? NO APPEAL!

 

[siucavflight]

Reason 12. You have to work with PDUB.

 

[F/O]

Reason 11:

They block anything useful from crew computers yet management gets to look at porn on theirs.

 

[time builder]

• YOU ARE REQUIRED TO SIGN A TRAINING CONTRACT

-after 6 months when you realize this the worst place to work in the U.S and you’re ready to take all that great jet time with you to another regional they come after you for thousands of dollars and attempt to ruin your credit.

As much as I enjoy reading these threads, and take every opportunity to persuade aspiring airline pilots to avoid Mesa, quotes like this make me cringe.

You may feel like the victim, they may have been deceptive, you may feel like you've found the legal loophole to get out of it, but it's still unethical to break a training agreement.

The only way I can see breaking an agreement is if they're asking you to do something illegal or unsafe. Is this the case? If it is, seriously, that's the point you should be making, not that it's "wrong" to have you sign an agreement and threaten to come after you when you fail to live up to your end of it.

 

[CX880]

I am 3+ years as an F.O. Still no upgrade. Stay away. I diddn't listen when the Flight Info Faithful warned me. I regreit it now.

No you don't understand though dude, you get to fly a CRJ900.

 

[say again]

pdub is an idiot, reason 14. that boy has a lot to learn, and it will be the hard way.

 

[siucavflight]

pdub is an idiot, reason 14. that boy has a lot to learn, and it will be the hard way.

I think the hard way is working at Mesa.

 

[PCL_128]

Your a Effin idiot. you obviously dont work for mesa. The last upgraded capt was JFK:hired July 2005 and 17 more just started ground school.

Hotel is paid for in training....

you a ****************************** if you think all flying is going to China...

why dont you just take a seat and stop reading old info

Are you actually defending Mesa? Are you high?

 

[T-prop]

As much as I enjoy reading these threads, and take every opportunity to persuade aspiring airline pilots to avoid Mesa, quotes like this make me cringe.

You may feel like the victim, they may have been deceptive, you may feel like you've found the legal loophole to get out of it, but it's still unethical to break a training agreement.

The only way I can see breaking an agreement is if they're asking you to do something illegal or unsafe. Is this the case? If it is, seriously, that's the point you should be making, not that it's "wrong" to have you sign an agreement and threaten to come after you when you fail to live up to your end of it.

It is an illegal contract if Mesa did not mention it anytime during the interview or application process.

Nowhere on a pilot application does it mention a training contract. As organized as their interview circus is, they often "forget" to mention it.

Furthermore, they make you sign it after becoming employed with Mesa. If you don't, you're fired. If you sign it you've signed it under duress...

The law is the law. Besides, why be ethical with Mesa when they have been anything but?

 

[T-prop]

Please dooork and pdub, tell us how Mesa is great and JO is good and how we are all wrong...

...you obviously know something that your coworkers, former coworkers and the general pilot population doesn't.

 

[Jack Mehoff]

Your a Effin idiot. you obviously dont work for mesa. The last upgraded capt was JFK:hired July 2005 and 17 more just started ground school.

Hotel is paid for in training....

you a ****************************** if you think all flying is going to China...

why dont you just take a seat and stop reading old info

Someone is chuging some major kool aide! Don't forget to cup JO's sack. Your flying is going to china buddy get real.