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I'm going to say it again, UAX pilots were not consulted prior to this letter being sent. No one I have spoken to was aware that the letter was being written let alone the contents of the letter. I haven't spoken to or even heard of anyone that thinks that denying jumpseats is an appropriate thing to do. To be honest, the UALMEC should do nothing in response because UAX pilots are not going to deny Jumpseats. It sounds to me that UAX JSCs responded emotionally out frustration in issuing this letter. I appreciate the work that those folks do for us but, this wasn't smart, necessary, or well carried out. Even if the UALMEC does start denying us jumpseats, I still won't advocate denying jumpseats.
The UAX pilots didn't ask for this fight, we don't seem to be having much luck getting our JSC's to retract this letter. None of this needs to happen.
 
McNugget said:
Not likely. Our EMB170s will fill the market void on their own, and there won't be any jumpseat issues. Maybe there is some truth to the legend of the guppykiller, after all.
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What market void do you think you will fill, your whole business plan is based off of fee for departure, YOU ARE A CONTRACT CARRIER NOT A STAND ALONE CARRIER.
 
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Mcnugget,

I don't like people attacking each other or posting stuff that is just supposed to anger or get a rise out of folks, even more so when it's not clever well thought out etc....so I'm just going to ignore you.
 
Freeze_gopher said:
I'm going to say it again, UAX pilots were not consulted prior to this letter being sent. No one I have spoken to was aware that the letter was being written let alone the contents of the letter. I haven't spoken to or even heard of anyone that thinks that denying jumpseats is an appropriate thing to do. To be honest, the UALMEC should do nothing in response because UAX pilots are not going to deny Jumpseats. It sounds to me that UAX JSCs responded emotionally out frustration in issuing this letter. I appreciate the work that those folks do for us but, this wasn't smart, necessary, or well carried out. Even if the UALMEC does start denying us jumpseats, I still won't advocate denying jumpseats.
The UAX pilots didn't ask for this fight, we don't seem to be having much luck getting our JSC's to retract this letter. None of this needs to happen.
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I really don't think there is much to worry about. The reality is 99% of all pilots will help another one get to work. (scabs excluded) Unless directly asked not to allow UAX on I will always accept them. It is, in my opinion, highly unlikely it will come to that.
 
Freeze_gopher said:
I'm going to say it again, UAX pilots were not consulted prior to this letter being sent. No one I have spoken to was aware that the letter was being written let alone the contents of the letter. I haven't spoken to or even heard of anyone that thinks that denying jumpseats is an appropriate thing to do. To be honest, the UALMEC should do nothing in response because UAX pilots are not going to deny Jumpseats. It sounds to me that UAX JSCs responded emotionally out frustration in issuing this letter. I appreciate the work that those folks do for us but, this wasn't smart, necessary, or well carried out. Even if the UALMEC does start denying us jumpseats, I still won't advocate denying jumpseats.
The UAX pilots didn't ask for this fight, we don't seem to be having much luck getting our JSC's to retract this letter. None of this needs to happen.
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Again, thanks. The problem is on this board most of the post about this letter have been UAX pilots in support of the ultimatum, you are one of the few that has vocalized your disagreement. I hope we can bump into more pilots like yourself.
 
Fly2AK said:
What market void do you think you will fill, your whole business plan is based off of fee for departure, YOUR A CONTRACT CARRIER NOT A STAND ALONE CARRIER.
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They will fill the regional flying needs of whatever carrier swoops in to pick up the scraps if United fails. They have the ability to switch brand loyalties, you do not.
 
Fly2AK said:
What market void do you think you will fill, your whole business plan is based off of fee for departure, YOUR A CONTRACT CARRIER NOT A STAND ALONE CARRIER.
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I believe, in this case, that "YOU'RE" (as a contraction for "YOU ARE" would be correct. YOUR would indicate something possessive, like YOUR GUPPY. Just trying to help.
 
imacdog said:
They will fill the regional flying needs of whatever carrier swoops in to pick up the scraps if United fails. They have the ability to switch brand loyalties, you do not.
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So UAL fails, you are there to fly your RJ for whoever picks up the scraps. Let me guess you get that flying by undercutting the next guy and continuing the race to the bottom. Good plan where do I sign up?
 
imacdog said:
They will fill the regional flying needs of whatever carrier swoops in to pick up the scraps if United fails. They have the ability to switch brand loyalties, you do not.
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And that would probably be southwest and they have no express carrier. Every carrier out there is trying to get rid of 50 seat RJs, I know you have 70 seat RJ's but don't exprect to many carriers to try and bring in 366 aircraft to fill the void, these are fragile times and carriers are a bit gunshy on expansion, besides isn't Delta cancelling a lot of express contracts? Why do you think the express guys are immune to the downturn in our industry? Is it because we pay for your fuel?
 
I am not privy to the RFP process and how regional carriers are selected. Not that you would care anyway, you gave that flying up with contractual scope concessions. You don't want to fly those silly RJs anyhow.

I'm also not quite sure why you are referring to me as a regional pilot either. I fly twin engine Cessnas.
 
McNugget said:
I believe, in this case, that "YOU'RE" (as a contraction for "YOU ARE" would be correct. YOUR would indicate something possessive, like YOUR GUPPY. Just trying to help.
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Thanks for the red ink teach, at least we know you have a back up plan to your pilot career.
 
imacdog said:
I am not privy to the RFP process and how regional carriers are selected. Not that you would care anyway, you gave that flying up with contractual scope concessions. You don't want to fly those silly RJs anyhow.

I'm also not quite sure why you are referring to me as a regional pilot either. I fly twin engine Cessnas.
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Then why are you trying to inflame a post you have nothing to with. And for the record I did fly the RJ's for a few years, I didn't give up any flying.
 
You may not personally have voted for it but your pilot group certainly did. Am I not allowed to participate in this discussion? I am offering an opinion from outside your screwed up airline, nothing more. Sorry if you disagree with my opinions.
 
Fly2AK said:
Thanks for the red ink teach, at least we know you have a back up plan to your pilot career.
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That's a much better use of the word "your". I'm happy to help, and am sure it will be of much use when you put on your orange apron at Home Depot.
 
McNugget said:
That's a much better use of the word "your". I'm happy to help, and am sure it will be of much use when you put on your orange apron at Home Depot.
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Don't think I will be working at the depot any time soon, yes I will be furloughed soon and yes you will still be an a$$hole, but before I end up doing a non flying job I will be back home in Alaska flying with my wife and soon to be new baby girl and there I can be a part of her life on a daily basis, so even with the bad I can find some good.

imacdog - you are entitled to your opinion, thats the right that our military has fought to keep. UAL has many problems but I challenge you to find an airline that is not screwed up. I was on different property before I came to UAL property and let me tell you that I have been much happier here with UAL, but thanks for your clueless opinion.
 
Fly2AK said:
Don't think I will be working at the depot any time soon, yes I will be furloughed soon and yes you will still be an a$$hole, but before I end up doing a non flying job I will be back home in Alaska flying with my wife and soon to be new baby girl and there I can be a part of her life on a daily basis, so even with the bad I can find some good.
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Sniff, sniff...That's real sweet, man!
 
Fly2AK said:
Why don't you go back to eating your Mc Donalds, and do us all a favor. I have plenty of things in aviation I can do and have plenty of irons in the fire.
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We care, really! Tell us!

Well, my work is about done here, for the day. As a final thought, I leave you with this brief video message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd-MpXCMcIs
 

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