Tipping hotel van drivers

[AV80R]

Look, y'all. Tip if you want to, don't if you don't want to. I'm not afraid to admit that I'm a cheapass who would rather spen that tip money on alcohol for my crew.

You see, I totally respect that! Do what you want but don't come up with lame excuses trying to blame being a cheapa** on low pay, no change, etc, etc.

 

[I HATE HATS]

you chumps that don't tip regularly and then make up some half-a$$ rationalization why you dont are a bunch of punks. van not there? guy not in a good mood? come on.

At least take the skirt off and have the balls to admit you're too f-ing cheap to tip those guys. then at least you'll be a cheapa$$ instead of a guy too coward too admit the former.

My strategy: Aggressively stiff if I don't overnight there very often. Occasionally tip if you know you're going to be there a few times in a short period.
Here's how I look at it. It's a zero sum game. $1 more for him, $1 less for me. I like money--why GIVE IT AWAY when I am under no obligation to?

Oh yeah, I'm a cheapa$$. But when the service sucks, I feel less guilty about it.

 

[Noise]

If I ever meet that waitress, I will punch her in the face. In other countries, it is offensive to tip. It is a mentality thing in our country.

Wow, little wound up still after your vacation this weekend??

Back on topic, I do agree with you about tipping being a mentality thing in our country. In asian countries, there is no tipping that takes place, and employees work twice as hard because they take pride in doing their job, because they are grateful to have it in the first place.

I myself only tip if i happen to have any $1's on me when i get into the van. If I dont have any, i do not go out of my way to get any. However, like has been previously stated, I do tip every time for a ride to the mall, resturant etc.

 

[CrownandCoke]

Wow, little wound up still after your vacation this weekend??

Back on topic, I do agree with you about tipping being a mentality thing in our country. In asian countries, there is no tipping that takes place, and employees work twice as hard because they take pride in doing their job, because they are grateful to have it in the first place.

I myself only tip if i happen to have any $1's on me when i get into the van. If I dont have any, i do not go out of my way to get any. However, like has been previously stated, I do tip every time for a ride to the mall, resturant etc.

sorry for the hostility there sir. It just pisses me off that people expect a tip. Has anyone tipped you for flying them to their destination in the heavy iron?

 

[ERJFO]

My number one rule:

When I walk out of the terminal and that van isn't there, no tip. I wait, they lose.

Good to see you don't think you're the only person on earth.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

You tip so the van driver will take you somewhere to eat...

You tip so the van driver will be on time for the next crew....

Oh, you want the van to be on time to pick you up, but the jacka$$ crew the driver just dropped off stiffed him, creating an attitude of apathy and lack of motivation to rush back to get you... all while your sorry, cold a$$ is wating for the van.... as you think the van driver is a jerk when its really your fellow pilot who you are advocating on this message board.....

You guys are gems.... real pros...

 

[bailout]

Its simple, if they load your bags, you tip them, if youre doing naps, as in no bags, then i usually dont. Im usually inside the hotel by the time they come around to the door.

I built a good relationship with a driver in MCO and simply asked how much he made in tips a day, or how much a year. I was Shocked to say the least. This guy was @ 37, had been working at the same hotel @ 12 years, makes @ 150-100 in tips a day and makes @ 50K a year! This is a very busy hotel and they have 5-6 drivers who all make 20+ trips a day to the airport and errands for guests.

 

[CopilotDoug]

I'm happier with the dollar

she makes a fuss about it to the customers.

Oddly enough, I've had this waitress before.

Had a Captain ask me once or twice for tip money in front of the driver...what the hell's with that $hit ?

 

[John Pennekamp]

Oddly enough, I've had this waitress before.

Had a Captain ask me once or twice for tip money in front of the driver...what the hell's with that $hit ?

That or asking the van driver for change. I always love that one... WTF?

 

[CA1900]

If all I have is a $20 I got out of the ATM, I have two options: Stiff the driver, or ask him for change. I'm sure as hell not going to give him a $20!

 

[John Pennekamp]

If all I have is a $20 I got out of the ATM, I have two options: Stiff the driver, or ask him for change. I'm sure as hell not going to give him a $20!

Cripe, just get him next time! That's so tacky to ask for change. Kinda like making change in the collection plate in church!

 

[CFI2766]

Wow, seems like this question stirred up a lot of emotion. Thanks for the replies, on both sides of the question.

I'm still a little tight on cash to be tipping regularly, but I will cough up a buck for special circumstances, i.e., going to the mall, or out of their way to get me something to eat on the way to the hotel. I'll probably feel differently next year when I'm off of super-low, probationary period, hazing pay.

 

[Mr Wu]

What about them strippers? $20 for a lap dance and then they want a tip too. WTF!

 

[blueridge71]

When I was an FO on a regional probationary payscale, my philosphy was that I would not tip for rides to/from the airport unless there was exceptional service. My reasoning was that I normally threw my own bags and I considered those trips basic service covered by the airline's contract with the hotel.

On the other hand, if I had to get a van ride to a restaurant or someplace other than the airport, I tipped a buck. In that case, they were doing me a favor.

If you are an FO making less than $30,000 (especially if you are supporting a family), keep your money.

 

[Beetle007]

I admire anyone who refuses to tip.

A tip should never be expected for anything. We lost the battles at restaurants, and are fighting the battle on other fronts (Starbucks, Quiznos, subway, Dunkin doughnuts, van drivers, etc.) When I see a tip cup at McDonalds I will know the war has been lost. To bad I’m not brave enough to stiff people and I only contribute to the problem.

I used to work as a waiter and I hated that my company only paid me 2.13 an hour plus tips. My company should have been paying me minimum wage (without tips) and my customers should have only tipped if they got superior service. I hated the concept of tips because why should some customers pay more than others. And, if they stiffed me, I actually ended up PAYING to serve them because I had to give the restraunt a percentage of my "expected" tips regardless of what I actually got tipped. The restraunt would then share my "expected tips" with other restaurant workers (standard industry practice).

In my opinion, the cost of a product should always include tax and tip. Thanks again to those who refuse to tip.