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“Don't tip at all your first year. Most people dont.”

Huh? Most people don’t? Wow, that’s the first I heard. The fact you’re even asking the question sounds to me like you already made up your mind and now need a justifications to your actions from others.

It wasn’t that long ago I was making a whopping $17,000 a year yet somehow always managed to tip the driver. Just because our pay sucks doesn’t mean we have to be jerks to the drivers.

“People have to work for my money!”

You sound like one of those guys/gals who’s always looking for an excuse NOT to tip. “Oh, there you go - we waited 3 minutes longer than normal for our table – no tip for you!”
Tipping should be the norm, only an unusually substandard service or a rude driver should make an exception to the rule. Even if you waited for the van a little longer than usual, if on the way to the hotel you notice the traffic indeed is really bad, give the guy/gal a break, there’s not much he/she can do about the traffic.

Treat others the way you’d want to be treated!
 
I know of a guy that didn't tip the van drivers and was generally a jerk to them...

One morning, after dropping him off at the airport and not getting tipped again, they pulled his tab from the hotel bar the night before. It was time stamped and made for great reading when it came accross the Chief pilot's fax.

One day per diem covers the entire month worth of van ride tips.

It's true that some van drivers make more than some F/O's. If it's that big of a problem for you, go be a van driver. Easiest job in the world to get.

Remember the Steve Buschemi speech in Resevior Dogs? Don't be that guy.
 
“Don't tip at all your first year. Most people dont.”

Huh? Most people don’t? Wow, that’s the first I heard. The fact you’re even asking the question sounds to me like you already made up your mind and now need a justifications to your actions from others.

Most people in their first year at a regional airline don't tip.

It wasn’t that long ago I was making a whopping $17,000 a year yet somehow always managed to tip the driver. Just because our pay sucks doesn’t mean we have to be jerks to the drivers.
That's wonderful. I'm glad giving away your money for contracted services makes you happy. You could have made $17,300+ your first year if you didnt. That's 2% of your income.

“People have to work for my money!”

You sound like one of those guys/gals who’s always looking for an excuse NOT to tip. “Oh, there you go - we waited 3 minutes longer than normal for our table – no tip for you!”
Tipping should be the norm, only an unusually substandard service or a rude driver should make an exception to the rule. Even if you waited for the van a little longer than usual, if on the way to the hotel you notice the traffic indeed is really bad, give the guy/gal a break, there’s not much he/she can do about the traffic.

Treat others the way you’d want to be treated!
I stand by my statement. I tip for good service. That's how it should be. Unless your party is 8 or more or whatever it says on the bottom of your receipt :)
 
I stand by my statement. I tip for good service. That's how it should be. Unless your party is 8 or more or whatever it says on the bottom of your receipt :)

I stand by my statement too!

I guess the aeropark in your avatar is for your private use huh? ;)
 
a while back, I read in Dear Abby (don't ask) a letter from a waitress saying that she expects 25% tips now. She said 25% is customary and that if she is undertipped, she makes a fuss about it to the customers. If I ever meet that waitress, I will punch her in the face. In other countries, it is offensive to tip. It is a mentality thing in our country. I am a first year FO, and I have never tipped a van driver. Don't plan on doing it until I am a captain, and if they are late, bad driving, etc, that will equal no tip.

15% at a restaurant, pretax. Lower if the service is not superior.
 
I know of a guy that didn't tip the van drivers and was generally a jerk to them...

One morning, after dropping him off at the airport and not getting tipped again, they pulled his tab from the hotel bar the night before. It was time stamped and made for great reading when it came accross the Chief pilot's fax.


Yet another reason not to drink in hotel bars.

One day per diem covers the entire month worth of van ride tips.

It's true that some van drivers make more than some F/O's. If it's that big of a problem for you, go be a van driver. Easiest job in the world to get.

Remember the Steve Buschemi speech in Resevior Dogs? Don't be that guy.

It also covers the bar tab for my crew. No desire to be a van driver... this is easier and more fun.
 
you chumps that don't tip regularly and then make up some half-a$$ rationalization why you dont are a bunch of punks. van not there? guy not in a good mood? come on.

At least take the skirt off and have the balls to admit you're too f-ing cheap to tip those guys. then at least you'll be a cheapa$$ instead of a guy too coward too admit the former.
 
In other countries, it is offensive to tip. It is a mentality thing in our country.

Has nothing to do with mentality, has to do with tax codes. In most Nordic countries for examples restaurant workers get a mandatory tip allowance as part of their paychecks; in other words a part of the price of the meal you are paying is reserved for tips and is included in the waiters’ salaries.

I am a first year FO, and I have never tipped a van driver… if she is undertipped, she makes a fuss about it to the customers. If I ever meet that waitress, I will punch her in the face.”

Maybe the drivers should “punch you in the face?” :)
Wow, I guess you deserve a Medal of Winer!!! Poor me, me, me…

Ps. Maybe you can ask “Dear Abby” how to become a better person? ;)
 
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you chumps that don't tip regularly and then make up some half-a$$ rationalization why you dont are a bunch of punks. van not there? guy not in a good mood? come on.

At least take the skirt off and have the balls to admit you're too f-ing cheap to tip those guys. then at least you'll be a cheapa$$ instead of a guy too coward too admit the former.

Ooooh, internet tough guy teling us off anonymously. I bet you have a 1 inch johnson too. I bet the ladies are impressed!

Look, y'all. Tip if you want to, don't if you don't want to. I'm not afraid to admit that I'm a cheapass who would rather spen that tip money on alcohol for my crew.
 

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