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jbDC9 said:And if I hear the term "lower the bar" one more time, I'm gonna puke. Holy crap that phrase is tired, overused and cliched by now, perhaps even more so than "scab!". That and "race to the bottom...", they're done to death.
Need some new cliches here, something shiny and new... maybe something that'll go along with SJS mentioned in another thread. (Shiny Jet Syndrome)
BigHangar said:Imagine this, ASA pilots continue to fight for a better contract, but SkyWest management does not want to give it to them. ASA starts to make some ruckus, what do you think would happen? Thats right, SW mgmt will give the flying to SW and the SW pilots cant do anything about without a scope clause in a contract. So think about who is screwing who. If the SW pilots had a contract with scope or some merger/aquisition language, it would prevent SW mgmt from whipsawing one pilot group against the other. This would obviously lower the bar for everyone. And if I hear one more SW pilot tell me their pay and QOL is equal to or as good as anybody out there, Im going to puke. Pay might be almost on par in some areas, but QOL is far from airlines with unions.
Please please SW pilots, we are all in this industry together, we all need to watch out for each other. We all need to feed our families and being non-union hurts this fraternity of pilots. Step up to the plate and start the union drive. Do it for your new co-workers.
BigHangar said:I agree, I think they will do the right thing too. I just hope the few young ones over there and the other koolaid drinking folks can be persuaded to understand the reality of what is going on in the industry.
Black Water Dog said:I would have to say the koolaid tastes pretty good. OK, waterskiiers need a union with the slimy management they have. Here the case is not to clear cut.
Black Water Dog said:And yes, the pay rates are better than most others.
This toolbox is a perfect example of why we can't get a union on board, it thinks that growth is the answer, what happens when the growth stops? The same toolboxes that said "I will get mine when I upgrade" are gonna whine like puppies pulled off of the teat! Well BWD, if and when the music stops you can swing my gear until the music starts again. I am already far enough up the ladder,unless the company fails, I GOTS MINE, you? I am slowly becoming weary talking to these moron talking heads spouting, "I'm gonna take the quick upgrade, so I can get 1000PIC and move on to LUV, FedEx, ect"Black Water Dog said:The reality of this industry is that I'll be in an RJ for the duration thanks to union scope clauses at the majors. Thanks a lot "brothers".
Going from a weak ALPA carrier to SkyWest, I would have to say the koolaid tastes pretty good. OK, waterskiiers need a union with the slimy management they have. Here the case is not to clear cut. And yes, the pay rates are better than most others. A few are higher, but how many of them are growing?