The newest trend in Airline Fees...Al Gore dream come true!

[§kyye Candy]

Keep believing that.

And given that the U.S. "man" you refer to seems to produce 1/3rd of all the CO2 on the planet, perhaps those of us in the U.S. should do something about it, man.

Cheers,

SCR

Yeah! You tell him.

And Algore [sic] is probably producing at least 1/8 of the total CO2 emissions just on the energy it takes to keep up that compound he so humbly calls home. Him and all the cows. Did you know that cow flatulence contributes quite significantly to greenhouse gasses? I guess that's different though.

Ever wonder what caused the last ice age? I mean, it obviously wasn't a man-made event, since we didn't exist yet. All that historically proven climate change over time, and no people to be found in the equation.

Hmmmm.... perhaps this global warmimg thing isn't all what it's cracked up to be. Doh!

 

[Dan Roman]

Yes, Al Gore and Neil Young are definitely the sages I would turn to for a definitive answer on this subject. Perhaps you should consult Barbra Streisand and Jane Fonda for some advice on the war in Iraq.

...and your going to listen to airline pilots opinions on global warming?
It's pretty much unanimous among people much more qualified than any of us that global warming is a problem.

 

[§kyye Candy]

oh come on

I don't usually respond to this type of thread, considering this is an aviation forum, but I can't resist...

...and your going to listen to airline pilots opinions on global warming?
It's pretty much unanimous among people much more qualified than any of us that global warming is a problem.

Pretty much unanimous? And who would this unified and highly educated group be comprised of, exactly? Algore? Bono? Sean Penn???

Global warming will be a problem for everyone, eventually, I am sure. It would also be a problem if a meteor suddenly crashed into the earth. Both aforementioned occurences are probably about as likely to be affected significantly one way or another by our little adventures, IMHO. The jury is out, however, as to the cause of climate change (past, present or future), and certainly this "global warming" trend (scare language for the term "climate change") is nothing that hasn't happened before, and likely will continue to happen over and over again. Who ever said that the climate was a static thing?

I have yet to hear a scientific PROOF (read: NOT theory), backed up by facts and data, that states: a) that global warming is both the cause of humans and that b) it can definitely be fixed by human intervention.

As to your question about asking the uneducated masses known as pilots - start a freaking tree-hugger forum if you don't like hearing from us! This board is not "save the rainforest and elect Algore GOD" - it's a freaking aviaton board!

 

[c9skytrain]

Of course it is all cyclical. Greenland was farmed at one time.

 

[kngarthur]

Let me explain this. We burn Fossil Fuels into CO2 and H2O. CO2 falls to earth and is absorbed by plants, which is then turned into sugar for the plant. The plant dies and turns into crude oil again someday. So think of JetA as plant food.

Global Warming (from manmade causes) is a fraud!!!! It's a communist/socialist trick to hinder the US economy. Al Gore either knows this or he's really stupid!!!! Maybe he thinks he's GOD? Al Gore is an enemy of the US and should be thrown into Guantanamo.

The earth is not a living organism, it has living organism on it, but rocks don't contain DNA.

The earth has heated and cooled since the beginning--way before the industrial evolution. The sun is not a glowing ball in the heavens that outputs the same energy forever.

 

[mule]

How's that hole in the ozone layer doing?

It must be the size of a small planet by now.

 

[Slug]

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html


Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory. Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. (Get an overview: "Global Warming Fast Facts".)


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Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.
In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.
Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

 

[bouttime]

a friend of mine who is a geology professor read about NASA's new study, which was just released, showing the temperature on mars has been rising .6 or .7 degrees per year. I think we should stop sending our probes to mars considering we are causing global warming there too.

 

[AA717driver]

What troubles me about the Global Warming...er, excuse me, "Man Made Climate Change" (changed from global warming when proof about natural cycles of warming and cooling were presented) issue is when debate or discussion is not only stifled, but prevented.

No fair hearing is given to those with conflicting research on climate change by the media or GW/CC proponents. That scares me.

Also frightening is the fact that the topic has been declared closed by that bastion of truth and free speech--The United Nations. I'm sure we can rely on them for an unbiased study of this topic.

The data that the GW/CC crowd is relying on is derived from "Seth" wandering out to his outhouse in 1827 (and subsequent years) with a candle taking a temperature reading from the highest tech thermometer at the time while taking a dump. Adequate at the time but inadequate to cause me to leap off the GW/CC cliff.

Before I vote to wreck the economy of this country and seriously damage my personal financial status (we middle class folks will be devastated by fines levied against our un-green houses and lifestyles while the rich will just buy carbon offsets--after making millions in the Carbon Offset commodity exchange, and continue to fly their G's and drive their Bently's unburdened by a guilty conscience) I'm going to need to see some pretty convincing data from a source other than that bent on the subjugation of this country (the U.N.).

Additionally, NOTHING we do to reduce pollution in this country and Western Europe can offset the destructive industrialization of India and China. They were virtually untouched by the draconian "suggestions" of the Kyoto Treaty. The Guangzhou area in China will soon be virtually uninhabitable by any organism due to polluted water and air.

Dear China, India and Africa: You first. TC

 

[RedBelly]

If Al Gore were really serious about getting his message out, he would not have charged $7 to see his movie. He is trying to scare your money out of your wallet.

P.S. What is so bad about a greenhouse??? Stuff grows in there!