The logic of relative seniority

[CaptAntoineMack]

Seniority is not the same thing as longevity.

You seem to think no one on here knows that so you repeat this mantra over and over and over again.

And so then to follow is that longevity is not the same thing as seat position. So then therefore seat position is not the same thing as seniority or longevity. So then therefore the AT seat position is not the same as seniority or longevity.

SWA payrates are determined with longevity and seat position. AT pay rates are determined with longevity and seat position. So therefore equal pay is determined with both companies is determined with longevity and seat rates. So an AT Captain will earn the same as an SWA FO so therefore "Fair and Equitable" will integrate AT Captains at SWA FO rates. Then when the former AT pilots upgrade they will still have greater career expectations than the average SWA pilot. To this my vote will be in the affirmative.

I am just saying.......

 

[Max Powers]

Actually, you're right. The real date is October 26, 1993. That's the first day Valujet turned a wheel. So, here's the logic. All SWA pilots employed BEFORE that date should be placed on the seniority list. Air Tran (Valujet) didn't exist prior to that date, so to place any AAI pilot on the list prior to an SWA pilot employed before that date is a seniority windfall.

God, this is all so simple if you take out the greed and envy. Of course, not being either an SWA or AAI pilot I don't have a dog in the fight.

But then neither does an arbitrator.

Really? Is that what you call logic???? Never going to happen.

 

[waveflyer]

Conversely, are you OK with every sw fo senior to the last guy at at?

Of course- im just saying it's not realistic to think of any scenario that doesn't end up with several hundred below CJ .... Jmo

 

[MILF Hunter]

Seniority is not the same thing as longevity.

Wow PCL, its lucky you're just a line pilot like the rest of us because if you were on the MEC, for instance, that might be construed as an SLI position. But since you're not that important, I guess it's just another pilot doing exactly what your union has asked you not to do.

 

[PCL_128]

It's just a statement of fact, not an SLI position.

 

[St. Nic]

Seniority is not the same thing as longevity.

Oh really? Hmmmm. How do you bid on equipment? How do you bid for schedules? How do you board as a non rev?

DATE OF HIRE

 

[vixin]

SWA non rev is first come first served. Unless its non employee.

 

[RedDogC130]

DATE OF HIRE

This question is for St nic only...

If USAIR buys let's say american eagle...who have some senior dudes...would you still fight for doh w a regional carrier?

 

[get2flyin]

This question is for St nic only...

If USAIR buys let's say american eagle...who have some senior dudes...would you still fight for doh w a regional carrier?

Nice! He won't have a response for that.

 

[waveflyer]

Oh really? Hmmmm. How do you bid on equipment? How do you bid for schedules? How do you board as a non rev?

DATE OF HIRE

No- if that were the case, there'd be a lot of Trump shuttle pilots bidding a bit more powerfully than they currently do in the East