The Evil of PFT......

[scoot]

OK turd-man... Meet me after school 3 o'clock.
BTW..

900hrs. flight instructor
1 year bank checks all night
1 year commuter in Navajos
Four years working for $hit pay and not blameing PFT'ers 'cause I'm not an unhappy person.

I did PFT at GA recently to get recurrent so you're not as dumb as your avatar. Got what I needed with a $200 mo. student loan. Very good 121 training and flying the line experience. It should help me get a good job.

I chose not to go to the required interview prep for Airlink 'cause that's over the line. I spent enough already. So i'm interviewing elsewhere.

 

[bobbysamd]

Tax deduction

Actually what is funny is that I believe you can use the Montgomery GI Bill to fund the PFT for up to 60% of the total cost. If you think the anti-PFT'ers are upset before, they will go ballistic when they find out their tax dollars are going to support a military PFT'er.....

What's funnier still is you might be able to deduct P-F-T if you already have your ratings and are employed!

One certainly should consult with his/her tax professional first.

 

[deadstick]

What's funnier still is you might be able to deduct P-F-T if you already have your ratings and are employed!

First of all VA-RULES!! Second, ever hear of WIA? If not, check it out. More tax $'s at work for unemployed pilots. Don't knock it because you may need it some day. Third, if you have a CFI, aren't you always employed as an independent flight instructor?

 

[TWA Dude]

I hate PFT but I decline to denigrate my fellow pilots for their career choices. All the pilot-bashing crap that goes on here disgusts me.

- I don't prejudge the pilots I fly with.
- I don't blame other pilots for actions of their employers.
- I don't take out my frustrations by attacking others on message boards.

...and I know I'm not the only one.

Dude

 

[SWAnnabee]

Continental Express

Continental Express will NOT pay you a dime during newhire training. Would anyone consider this to be PFT?

 

[bobbysamd]

Continental Express

Continental Express will NOT pay you a dime during newhire training. Would anyone consider this to be PFT?

No. You were not required to remit money to COEX as a condition of being hired. Granted, the place could be a little more generous to new-hires.

 

[TWA Dude]

Re: Continental Express

Continental Express will NOT pay you a dime during newhire training. Would anyone consider this to be PFT?

The key word is "consider". When you get down to it just abou anyone can "consider" any flying job as PFT. Sometimes it's a matter of perspective and opinion. I always chuckle when someone busts out with a "Southwest is PFT" rant becuase they're just about the most coveted employer out there. Of course it's not fair that pilots with money have more opportunities to advance their careers. Being poor is always a disadvantage but that's capitalism.

As someone above posted, many of the students in the PFT and "Buy some turbine time" outfits are offspring of airline pilots. Obviously they just want they're kids to have it easier than they did. It's a myth that the major airline hiring people care about where applicants got their training. (Before someone jumps on me I'll concede that somewhere in the course of history somebody actually did care about PFT but I've never personally heard of it.) Back in the '90s a couple thousand pilots were hired at regional airlines through the FlightSafety/Comair PFT programs. Thankfully at least those days are gone but never forget that at the airlines it's always about profit and not about hiring the most qualified pilots.

Dude

 

[scoot]

bozt45
You are wrong.
Where did you get that info? Please don't state rumors as fact. They pay for your motel and enough to live on during your training!

 

[deadstick]

Have to spread the word and stir the pot

Free flight training at TabEx. Hmmmmm

 

[bobbysamd]

Don't hold your breath . . . . .

I looked at that page. Yeah, I'll bet that P-F-T outfit will rebate your P-F-T tuition, after you sue for it.

How do you spell fraud? Bad faith? Breach of contract?

In the interests of consumerism, here's a link to the consumer fraud webpage for the Florida Attorney-General.

Are you going to get a rebate, TabExpress F/O?

 

[AftCG182]

And keep in mind when thinking about your answer... you're dealing with ex-Airline Training Academy scumbags.

 

[pilotyip]

For TWA Dude

You are right! it is always about profits, without those your airline goes out business, or is absorbed into someone's else's airline. Profitable airlines, pay higher wages than airlines in bankruptcy, seat movement is always faster at profitable airlines. Nothing wrong with pursuing profits. Like I said before PFT was very common 8 years ago.

 

[B190Captain]

Re: Continental Express

No. You were not required to remit money to COEX as a condition of being hired. Granted, the place could be a little more generous to new-hires.

If you are hired at a company and you require training to become qualified in the equipment they fly, I would assume they would invest in you to survive during that training process.

Well they do realize that most of these applicants have mummy and daddy pay their bills during the time they are not being paid sh!t.

That my friends is a company taking advantage of a new-hire. They don't even have any confidence in who they just spent so much time interviewing and screening.

That is just wrong!!

 

[jetdawg]

This may stir the pot and for all I know it has already been said. I did not want to read all the posts to find out. Did anyone ever consider SWA as a buy your job PFT pilot hoaring or whatever you want to call it.

If you do not already have a 737 type will SWAhire you? Hell yeah but you better get yourself a type before you actually go to work for them. My eyes that is the same thing as hey if you want to work here pay me 10,000 to fly right seat of a Be1900 so you can make 11,000. No one ever thinks it is the same but if you are paying to get a job what else do you call it.

It sucks but do it the hard way. Teach pray teach then get a job buzzing around in the midwest with some boxes in the back then go for comuters then try and hope by then the big boys or in my case the medium boys are hiring and get a job with them

 

[pilotyip]

check other PFT thread

Your PFT definition does not fit the official one put forth by Bobbysans, (Paralegal). You should check it out, so when we refer to PFT we are all talking about same thing. Remember PFT is OK, it is a way to gain experience and build hours.