The Delta TA Disappointment... Here it is...

[KarmaPolice]

4/8.5/3/3

Profit sharing reduced from 15 percent to 10, to fund the raises

More 76 seat RJ's however a block hour formula reducing overall numbers (even though the overall numbers were going down anyway)

Small DC raise

Overtime flying pay above 85 hours. (to reduce need for pilots)

Promise of a 100 seat aircraft. (heard that before?)

 

[captain caveman]

4/8.5/3/3

Profit sharing reduced from 15 percent to 10, to fund the raises

More 76 seat RJ's however a block hour formula reducing overall numbers (even though the overall numbers were going down anyway)

Small DC raise

Overtime flying pay above 85 hours. (to reduce need for pilots)

Promise of a 100 seat aircraft. (heard that before?)

Are you and tanker clown butt buddies?

 

[bigshooter107]

What is the 76 seat formula?

 

[KarmaPolice]

Are you and tanker clown butt buddies?

Should I be excited about this? Record profits, and we get a contract like this?

 

[DTW320]

Easiest NO vote ever...

 

[DTW320]

DTW, MSP, and 1 SEA MEC Reps voted No.

 

[General Lee]

Amazing!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Data]

What! No B scale for the Pinnacle guys to flow up to!?

 

[Ridgeback]

So what exactly did you improve on?

 

[redflyer65]

I can't comprehend why they decrease in Profit Sharing. If they company wins, everyone does. The payrates should have been raised on their own merits, not "paid for" by a decrease in PS.

 

[BentOver]

That's not the way to tighten scope.. Allow more larger planes at the regional level.... The 50's would have gone away on their ownuke:

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Wasn't the "gential" saying something about a 20% DOS raise ?

 

[fam62c]

I can't comprehend why they decrease in Profit Sharing. If they company wins, everyone does. The payrates should have been raised on their own merits, not "paid for" by a decrease in PS.

Yup, that may be what kills it right there; the old switcheroo.

 

[amcnd]

The problem is. You want more pay... They will want more scope...

 

[fam62c]

Wasn't the "gential" saying something about a 20% DOS raise ?

There's fantasy then there's reality. No company is going to put 20% up front, especially when they are near the top of the heap already. They are putting in just enough to try to squeak it through and solve their RJ problem. What they are offering is what it is worth to them to get more 76 seaters. Unless the company really wants this bad the pilots have no leverage to get more in this situation.