I don't know how well reasoned this is since I'm on the road and tired from a short overnight in MKE last night, but I'll give it a go...
Delta markets ASA services, provides ticket stock, scheduling, maintainence, management and risk management of ASA. ASA is insured as "Delta Air Lines, Inc." along with the other ownership, financing and leasing arrangements that do not specify the exclusive nature, or rights, of ASA as a separate corporate entity.
SkyWest also uses Delta ticket stock and provides leasing arrangements for SkyWest RJ's....Delta doesn't own SkyWest.
Delta provides ACA and American Eagle scheduling and management for the markets ACA and Eagle does for Delta. Delta doesn't own ACA, nor do they own Eagle.
So given that logic SkyWest, ACA, and American Eagle should also be merged into Delta.
But SkyWest isn't an ALPA carrier, so how do you treat their pilots in regards to a PID?
The only people saying that there was a merger are the plantiffs in a multimillion dollar gold-digging lawsuit. Not only does ALPA say there was no merger....but the actual COMPANY says there was no merger. Again (from my last post), if there was a merger, why can't gate agents, schedulers, dispatchers, etc... bid mainline positons? Why can't middle managers go get a job at the G.O. and keep all seniority? Answer: Because the companies weren't merged. Delta Holdings which also owns Delta Air Lines bought ASA & Comair. Yes, it's a paper trail, but yes they are being run as seperate companies that all report to one board of directors. You're suing the wrong team....even getting ALPA to tell Delta there was a merger won't get Delta to merge the companies. All this time and money wasted on the wrong target.....
More importantly, ask my passengers if they know who Atlantic Southeast Airlines is - they all believe they are on Delta and they see no difference between my airplane and yours.
Everytime I fly on ASA the gate agents, flight attendants, and pilots all announce that you are flying ASA...but you're right, most pax are clueless. They also think MD88's are small, tickets are too expensive for a $200 transcon roundtrip, and think they should be treated better than the first class businessperson who paid $1500 for the same flight. Sounds like a personal probelm though. I never really cared that my CoEx pax thought they were on a Continental flight (and we had those that thought they were on a NWA and AmWest flights too because that's what their ticket stock said and also what the gate agent announced) Air France pax also travel on ASA....again, what's the point?
Do you mean the flow through that Continental's management unilaterally cancelled after pilots had spent years waiting for the "real" job?
Having spent a few years there waiting to flow thru OR for anybody to call me with an offer for a "real job" that didn't start at $13.25 like CoEx did at the time....the flow thru is still there and hasn't been unilaterally cancelled. If it had then CAL would have hundreds more furloughed because there would have been no flow back. Yes, a full IPO would have cancelled the agreement, however that's what was negotiated into the flow-thru. At the time it was written all the majors were buying into the regionals instead of talking of spinning them off so I don't think a lot of thought was put into that section.... thus my suggestion. You all have now had the opportunity to see how a flow thru would work in a downturn and have the advantage of being able to fix those problems in negotiations.
I consider my job to be real. ASA provides the same revenue seat miles you do.
Again, sounds like a personal issue. Do you get upset when pax call your airplane little or a puddle jumper? But you're preachin' to the choir....I know you work harder than I do for less money. So I'm a bad guy for working for an airline with better pay/work rules than you?
OK - here is the problem. DCI is currently at 35% to 37% of total system block hours. By the end of 2002 we will be further over the limit - what then?
Where did you get those numbers? They aren't published anywhere on the DeltaNet and as far as I have been told DCI is about 30-32%
ALPA refused to allow ASA's MEC to negotiate with Delta. Unless ASA can negotiate with Delta, there is no way to accomplish what you suggest. (ALPA was afraid we would scope 105 seats and down {the BAe 146 contract 96 scope - which is exactly what we had in mind} ) Since 105 seats and down would interefere with DALPA, ALPA (our sole bargaining agent) wrote a real nasty letter to Delta and our MEC.
So what you're saying is you bit the hand that can help you and you still expect them to give you the world with a smile? Gee, what would've happened if you wrote ALPA and DALPA and said you only want to scope all flying 70 seats and under? Maybe that nasty letter wouldn't have been written. By Delta I also am assuming you are talking about DALPA because nobody can stop you from negotiating with your own company (and yes, I DO agree Leo controlls the purse strings for DCI)
We need inclusive scope - all Delta flying by Delta pilots.
Again I agree. But you're not a Delta pilot...you work for Delta Connection, Inc. I have no issues with you becoming a Delta pilot as long its on terms both sides can agree to (ie a staple). As I have been saying all along however, you can't expect a lot of help getting you to attain this goal by making us out to be the villians (along with suing us).
I saw on another post you're DFW based... if you ever want to discuss this over a beer I'd be happy to. While many of your posts have been factually incorrect, your last post was well thought out - just a differant opinion - which is what makes debate enjoyable. I'm sure we'll never change each others opinions but hey, a beers a beer.