Believe it or not, I'm actually enjoying this conversation. I suppose however Mr. Noname, that you subscribe to the same theory of posting as SDD, that is of spreading lies but calling them rumors. So let's take a look:
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Actually, Skydiverdriver said just about exactly what one of Delta's former Chief Pilots told me, that DALPA reached too far with the last contract
Funny, isn't that exactly what Randy Rademaker said about the Comair contract? If I asked Mr. Osmundson his opinion should I take it as fact? Fact is Delta had negotiators too and the company signed off on the working agreement. If an employee contract would cause a company to loose money, then the management of that company should be held responsible by the BOD and the shareholders to change that. Fact is also that Fred Reid is also on record saying that the payrates were deserved.
If given the choice between rediculous pay rates ($275+ an hour on the smallest equipment DL operates @ 12 years - 737 Capt) or job security - I will take job security.
Here's where you start to cross that lie/viscious rumor line.... Let's see, a Delta 777 Captain currently makes $280.07/hr , yet you assert that the smallest category captain makes $275. That is a lie. A 737 Captian currently makes $161.08/hr. In 2005 at the end of the agreement, that 737 Captain will make $206.79 , nowhere near your supposed pay rates. But one can dream right?
As far as your job security...we thought we had negotiated that. When you have a no furlough clause that states "circumstances which the company does not have control shall not include the financial state of the company or the state of the economy" you pretty much think you have your bases covered. Hense the grievance that has been filed.
"All Delta flying performed by Delta pilots" is a worthy goal. Instead of furloughs and scope we could be writing about CRJ900's and growth - I'd be sitting in the right seat, you would be in the left.
I agree this is indeed a worthy goal. I am not opposed to this concept at all. I would say however the first thing that needs to be accomplished is that the wholy owned DCI needs to scope out all 70 seat and under flying to prevent your flying from being farmed out to ACA, Eagle, & SkyWest.
When you say "what DALPA did", just what do you mean? ALPA national is who shot down your request. DALPA opinion was that any conversation about intergration should not include anything to do with date of hire. While the Comair/ASA MEC's did not come out and say that phrase the fact of the matter is when you apply ALPA's merger & frag. policy, the possibility exists that such a thing may happen. Why didn't the Comair MEC come out and say any integration talks would be staple only? They didn't because they were looking out for their pilots, DALPA was simply doing the same.
The DALPA MEC offered to begin discussions about a flow-thru. Comair MEC declined... Why should it be up to DALPA to follow up anymore? Out of the kindness of our hearts so I can move backwards on my list? Thanks anyway....
However, Bill Buergey, your MEC Chairman says he is against any type of Onelist because there would be no place for his squadron mates to....
Here we go again with the lies.... other than reading this on the internet, just where has this been published? I have never seen ANY official position concerning this. But it sure makes your post sound juicy huh? A friend of a friend heard from a buddy in the crew room that flew with......
And then there is scope. In ALPA pilots have the right to vote on contracts that affect their pay and working conditions. Thanks to scope I will be a First Officer for a long, long, time. However, I never was given the opportunity vote on the contract ALPA negotiated with my employer that wrecked my upgrade opportunities.
The DALPA MEC negotiated a deffinition of the flying that would be done by Delta pilots. I suggest in your next contract you do the same. Also, I have the feeling that I'll be an F/O a hell of a lot longer then you will be DUE TO OUR SCOPE CLAUSE and the liberal expansion of DCI.
As individuals I like many Delta pilots and consider them friends; as a group within ALPA I feel you guys are predatory, completely egocentric, arrogant without justification and presently are sucking the life blood out of the company that I enjoy working for.
On this I agree. If all I knew about Comair pilots was what I read on the internet I wouldn't give a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** what happened to your pilot group. But because I have many friends that fly at Comair, I know that these opinions are simply politics of the MEC and a few brainwashed followers who, no matter how much facts are placed in front of them, refuse to find a solution that is anything other than 100% their opinion.
Right now your MEC is trying to negotiate furlough protection - using my equipment without my participation - if your furlough protection comes at the expense of Connection pilots you have no idea how ugly this will be.
Last I heard was of the possibility of a preferential interview. You would be opposed to furloughed pilots getting hired on the bottom of your list? Man...talk about bitterness.
There are many folks like me who are quietly seething over what your union has done to us.
Time to take a blood pressure pill and move on.... there's more to life than your job.
Merry Christmas!