Funny, isn't that exactly what Randy Rademaker said about the Comair contract? If I asked Mr. Osmundson his opinion should I take it as fact? Fact is Delta had negotiators too and the company signed off on the working agreement. If an employee contract would cause a company to loose money, then the management of that company should be held responsible by the BOD and the shareholders to change that. Fact is also that Fred Reid is also on record saying that the payrates were deserved.~~~^~~~ said:Actually, Skydiverdriver said just about exactly what one of Delta's former Chief Pilots told me, that DALPA reached too far with the last contract
Here's where you start to cross that lie/viscious rumor line.... Let's see, a Delta 777 Captain currently makes $280.07/hr , yet you assert that the smallest category captain makes $275. That is a lie. A 737 Captian currently makes $161.08/hr. In 2005 at the end of the agreement, that 737 Captain will make $206.79 , nowhere near your supposed pay rates. But one can dream right?If given the choice between rediculous pay rates ($275+ an hour on the smallest equipment DL operates @ 12 years - 737 Capt) or job security - I will take job security.
I agree this is indeed a worthy goal. I am not opposed to this concept at all. I would say however the first thing that needs to be accomplished is that the wholy owned DCI needs to scope out all 70 seat and under flying to prevent your flying from being farmed out to ACA, Eagle, & SkyWest."All Delta flying performed by Delta pilots" is a worthy goal. Instead of furloughs and scope we could be writing about CRJ900's and growth - I'd be sitting in the right seat, you would be in the left.
Here we go again with the lies.... other than reading this on the internet, just where has this been published? I have never seen ANY official position concerning this. But it sure makes your post sound juicy huh? A friend of a friend heard from a buddy in the crew room that flew with......However, Bill Buergey, your MEC Chairman says he is against any type of Onelist because there would be no place for his squadron mates to....
The DALPA MEC negotiated a deffinition of the flying that would be done by Delta pilots. I suggest in your next contract you do the same. Also, I have the feeling that I'll be an F/O a hell of a lot longer then you will be DUE TO OUR SCOPE CLAUSE and the liberal expansion of DCI.And then there is scope. In ALPA pilots have the right to vote on contracts that affect their pay and working conditions. Thanks to scope I will be a First Officer for a long, long, time. However, I never was given the opportunity vote on the contract ALPA negotiated with my employer that wrecked my upgrade opportunities.
On this I agree. If all I knew about Comair pilots was what I read on the internet I wouldn't give a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** what happened to your pilot group. But because I have many friends that fly at Comair, I know that these opinions are simply politics of the MEC and a few brainwashed followers who, no matter how much facts are placed in front of them, refuse to find a solution that is anything other than 100% their opinion.As individuals I like many Delta pilots and consider them friends; as a group within ALPA I feel you guys are predatory, completely egocentric, arrogant without justification and presently are sucking the life blood out of the company that I enjoy working for.
Last I heard was of the possibility of a preferential interview. You would be opposed to furloughed pilots getting hired on the bottom of your list? Man...talk about bitterness.Right now your MEC is trying to negotiate furlough protection - using my equipment without my participation - if your furlough protection comes at the expense of Connection pilots you have no idea how ugly this will be.
Time to take a blood pressure pill and move on.... there's more to life than your job.There are many folks like me who are quietly seething over what your union has done to us.
Well, I do remember who was in office (thanks for the smart remark), a union sympathetic president... and they still got nailed.Morning Wood said:"Dubbya the Unionbuster"? I wonder if you remember who was in the White House when the American/APA showdown happened? I don't recall ANY unions being busted since George W. took office. All I've seen are unions (with the
exception of the Comair pilots) receving "industry leading" raises.