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The ASA Dulles Deal

GeekMaster

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According to SH, he was going to send out the email today but the lawyers said he needed to wait until a certain date. However, he told recurrent ground this:

ASA will operate approximately 20 crj200's out of IAD. The flying will begin as early as February. UAL was a bit skiddish because they didn't like ASA's performance numbers. The company was persuasive that ASA's performance was better than DOT numbers due to ATL ops. UAL is agreeing to a "trial" period of flying.

Scott said that we would base about 30 crews there to begin with. The rest of the pilots apparently will cycle through via common overnight cities I guess.

If the flying is successful, it should lead to lots more flying with some possible future 70 seat work. In addition, if things go well, there are also disussions about shifting some of SKYW out of ORD to DEN and establishing a future ASA base in ORD. (sharing SKYW's maintenance)

He also spoke of massive opportunities throughout the industry. Some due to the possibility of RAH angering their mainline customers with their recent purchases, the likely death of Mesa, and even other carriers.

This isn't me talking....this is just what he was yappin in RGT this week.

Enjoy
 

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That's great if its true, but when aerodata dies again for the 15th time this year, (with no plan b) and our performance goes down hill, we'll find a way to screw it up. (hopefully not, its just murphy)
 

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Yeah-

Someone needs to deep-six that aerodata crap and find another vendor. There at least should be a backup system for all this very important data.

Aerodata is even worse than the idiots we used before. One breakdown is unacceptable-15 in a year (seriously-it is at least that many,) is simply untenable.

-This problem really needs som fixin.
 

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RGT, the monumental biggest waste of time in Aviation history..... Ahh, I feel better, thank you.

Trojan
 

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Probably have at least one spare up there. Improve Dulles at the expense of ATL. Hope to hell this works.
 

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Probably have at least one spare up there. Improve Dulles at the expense of ATL. Hope to hell this works.

I would imagine Inc. wants this to work pretty badly as well. My guess is we will have all of Inc.'s resources behind us. I hope it brings lots of virtual domiciles, especially Florida. This will help clear out ATL, and make many people happy. It's been a long time coming, but Inc. is gonna have a really nice looking route map...

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And another rumor about United flying! Gotta love it.
 

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I had a jumpseater from the maintenance side of the FAA mention that he thought we were going to be alright, and that there has been work done to shuffle several (around 20) more 200's to ASA's operating certificate. These aircraft were to come from two more carriers that currently operate them.

I'm glad to see that we are holding our own in the market. I'm also hoping that our performance numbers kick tail out of IAD- that would be the icing on the cake to illustrate what we truly have, despite our burden of Atlanta. It's good to see that busting tail for on time departures/A-14 is showing some fruit of the labor invested- hopefully it will continue.
 

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Note for anyone moving to IAD or ORD: Don't buy a house.

Nuff said.
 

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Note for anyone moving to IAD or ORD: Don't buy a house.

Nuff said.

I wouldn't buy my dream house,but in this market there may be great opportunities for investment...
 

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I wouldn't buy my dream house,but in this market there may be great opportunities for investment...

Yes, if you want to be a landlord and can afford to sit on it for the nine years it will take for the housing market to recover. Most housing declines take seven years. Experts are saying nine for this one.
 

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Let's hope the A-Tech types are really serious about making this work, which means many things: Adequate maintenance support including spare aircraft, workable schedules, commutable schedules, adequate crew facilities, proper domicile crew staffing...etc.
 

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Let's hope the A-Tech types are really serious about making this work, which means many things: Adequate maintenance support including spare aircraft, workable schedules, commutable schedules, adequate crew facilities, proper domicile crew staffing...etc.


Management is banking on this deal. It will definitely be staffed. Commutablility is all depending on where these guys are commuting from. Florida commutes aren't going to be easy since UAL has reduced it's Florida capacity, they've completely pulled out of FLL and PBI.

IAD is a disaster though when it comes to some of these gate agents and rampers. Had several Mesa jumpseaters tell me that ATL runs like clockwork compared to IAD. Can't wait to see how it goes, hope for the best....
 

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Probably have at least one spare up there. Improve Dulles at the expense of ATL. Hope to hell this works.


Agreed.


(I am absolutely certain I would not want SH's job. Talk to a bunch of whiney pilots, repeatedly compliment Uncle Rico's golf game. Repeat. Nah, not for me.)
 

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I get that it is the nature of the industry right now, but it is not comforting that a lot of our future depends on the efforts of people that aren't paid by ASA, or SKYW Inc..... Rampers in the hood (ATL), rampers in IAD, SKYW maintenance types possibly in ORD....
 

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we can only do what we can, certainly the powers that be understand the variables...
 

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So here's the big question... Will any of this get our furloughees back on property or our displacements back in the left seat? I've heard no, because this flying is only replacing the 20 we're due to lose from Delta in the Spring. Anyone here anything from SH on this? Any thoughts?
 

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So here's the big question... Will any of this get our furloughees back on property or our displacements back in the left seat? I've heard no, because this flying is only replacing the 20 we're due to lose from Delta in the Spring. Anyone here anything from SH on this? Any thoughts?

So far no furloughs coming back. Oh yeah, SH said that INC was ready to spend money to make all this work. Inc seems to be under the impression that if they make this work, they stand to become the super regional carrier. He didn't come out and say it, but he hinted that Inc may even loan UAL some big bucks if that's what it takes to make it work.
 
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