thanks for caring, Delta

[Rock]

Where's the leadership in the armed services?? starting right at #1 there is none.

Gee, you really sound like you have a lot of practical experience in this matter. Thanks for all your wisdom. Now, on behalf of almost every military professional I've ever served with (many of whom are serving today in Iraq),....Go away.

Let the men and women who know the job do their job. They're doing it well. And they prefer to drink with people whose most obvious attribute isn't gross ignorance and a big mouth.

But if you really want to talk the talk, feel free to walk right on down to the nearest recruiting office. I'm sure you've got something worth contributing to a good cause.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Gee, you really sound like you have a lot of practical experience in this matter. Thanks for all your wisdom. Now, on behalf of almost every military professional I've ever served with (many of whom are serving today in Iraq),....Go away.

Let the men and women who know the job do their job. They're doing it well. And they prefer to drink with people whose most obvious attribute isn't gross ignorance and a big mouth.

But if you really want to talk the talk, feel free to walk right on down to the nearest recruiting office. I'm sure you've got something worth contributing to a good cause.

You telling me GW knows what he's doing there in Iraq?

Is it anti-patriotic to question your leadership and demand some action?

you calling Iraq a "good cause"??

Its one of the biggest abortions our country created in a LONG LONG time....and it aint the jackasses on Capitol hill feelin' the pain, its all the guys and gals being marched over to free those there Iraqies...They are the ones paying for this administrations HUGE intelligence failure....and those Iraqies..you know, they really appreciate us being there...they like western ways and democracy. Wake up you brainwashed fool.

Trust me, Im thankful for everyone who serves, including you. But when it comes down to admiting this is a real fark up and there is NO PLAN to get our boys outta there, all you guys can say is "You weren't in the service, so shut your mouth".

Its moronic.

 

[Rock]

Hmm. You must have missed the part in my post about big mouth and ignorance. ...(unless you're just trying to prove you are blessed with both).

Now go away little man.

 

[SkiFishFly]

You telling me GW knows what he's doing there in Iraq?

Is it anti-patriotic to question your leadership and demand some action?

you calling Iraq a "good cause"??

Its one of the biggest abortions our country created in a LONG LONG time....and it aint the jackasses on Capitol hill feelin' the pain, its all the guys and gals being marched over to free those there Iraqies...They are the ones paying for this administrations HUGE intelligence failure....and those Iraqies..you know, they really appreciate us being there...they like western ways and democracy. Wake up you brainwashed fool.

Trust me, Im thankful for everyone who serves, including you. But when it comes down to admiting this is a real fark up and there is NO PLAN to get our boys outta there, all you guys can say is "You weren't in the service, so shut your mouth".

Its moronic.

Those of us who pay attention, understand that the current President is motivated to deal with the likes of Iraq, Iran, and North Korea now so that our children and our grandchildren do not have to face these problems. It requires a much LONGER range vision than the likes of Gulfstream200 and the average American journalist can muster. As one of the volunteers who has children, I am happy to assist the President and Mr. Rumsfield as they work towards achieving this goal.

 

[capt. megadeth]

How about you get on your congressman's ass and make that happen.

Until then I bet the guys actually doing the job that your elected representatives sent them to do would appreciate a cup of coffee and a thank you.

That would be difficult since we've got yahoos like Dick Durbin representing us here in good ole Illinois. Schmuck is more worried about how the wittle psycho murderers are treated at Gitmo then our troops.

Anyways, that's great what the Delta capt. did......Awesome.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Hmm. You must have missed the part in my post about big mouth and ignorance. ...(unless you're just trying to prove you are blessed with both).

Now go away little man.

"go away little man" ?? thats good.

pretty much what I figured.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Those of us who pay attention, understand that the current President is motivated to deal with the likes of Iraq, Iran, and North Korea now so that our children and our grandchildren do not have to face these problems. It requires a much LONGER range vision than the likes of Gulfstream200 and the average American journalist can muster. As one of the volunteers who has children, I am happy to assist the President and Mr. Rumsfield as they work towards achieving this goal.

Ahhh...."long range vision"...

sounds like GW code for "I have no farkin clue"

you feed yourself and your first born to Rumsfeld good soldier. I think the guy has some explaining to do...to the commander in chief and every US soldier.

but I know, "long range vision".

 

[Gulfstream 200]

The people who serve in the armed forces are strictly volunteers. They are not forced to serve. They serve because they WANT to make a contribution.

Now who is the brainwashed fool?

You CANNOT believe that line of garbage.

Are there a certain percentage of patriotic young Americans who sign up just to serve their beloved country and make a contribution? You bet....think they are the majority over there in Iraq?

try again. They are guardsmen who signed up for the college money, they are enlisted fellas who signed up to get their babies benefits etc...

but regardless, yes, they are volunteers and the idea of going to war was very real, but possibly not in their minds.

So they step up and do the job they did not expect to do. They deserve the best. The best equipment, much better pay, RESPECT. These are some of the reasons I am/vote Republican.

Now, most importantly -- they need sound leadership. A CEO / Commander with a plan on how his company is going to succeed. We dont have that right now. How long has it been since we "won" the war in Iraq? a few years? whats next? we keep "freeing Iraqies"? we force democracy on them? Americanize the mideast?

hows all that working so far fella? -- because, you know, my "long range vision" is a little fuzzy right about now.

Please, dont ever question my respect and admiration for our US soldiers..just dont be afraid to question their leadership - because there is none right now.

Blind faith in your leaders is not patriotic, its ignorant.

 

[ExAF]

Ask

Gulfstream,
Not trying to contribute to a political diatribe, but have you ever actually talked to ANYONE that has actually been in Iraq? Most of them have quite a different perspective on what is going on there and whether or not it is worth it compared to the drivel that our beloved media portrays. I am not saying things are perfect, just that I don't think it is as grim as you might think. There are actually a lot of good things happening over there, but you will never hear about them in the media. You will have to go straight to "the horse's mouth" for that info, not the other end. Cheers...ExAF

 

[CLE145CA]

Back to the original topic....

Gate agent informed me last year that we had an army guy going home for his two week leave of absence. He was easy to spot in uniform and all. I couldn't offer him first class just the exit row (which is the closest thing to first class on the EMB145). Once everyone was on board and seated, I did my usual cockpit spiel and welcomed this individual on board by name and explained his presence. The whole plane erupted in applause and appreciation.

So, again, you may not agree with the conflict in Iraq (I don't), but as a military brat and brother we should ALWAYS respect our troops for the sacrifices they make for this country.

 

[AV80R]

“Im shedding that patriotic tear with ya, for buying them a cup of farkin' coffee...

Now wake up. lets get them a plan to bring them home. That would be a little more patriotic. Regardeless of your political background, our guys/girls deserve better than they are getting.”

To Gulfstream 200-

Wow, I must say that’s a response I did not expect. After all, we were just “talking” about different ways of showing appreciation for the great job our troops are doing in Iraq. I understand you are totally against the Iraq war and you definitely let everyone know about it. I respect that but you must understand not everyone agrees with you.

Well, I for one truly believe this war was totally justified! I just wish the WMD were never mentioned because I think we should have completed the job during the first Gulf war, with or without the WMD. Of course, at the time we weren’t allowed to go all the way to Baghdad because we had to listen to our so called “friends:” the Germans, the French and the Russian. After all, the agreement reached in the UN applied to the liberation of Kuwait only – and not one step further! Well, today our troops are paying with their lives for our politicians’ mistake of listening to the Europeans.

I know you believe we are losing this war, I don’t! I realize it’s a very tough battle but I have no doubts our troops will prevail. I would like to remind you that after the liberation of Europe, the Nazis and Nazi collaborators fought a small guerilla war there until 1951. There were bridges blown up, trains derailed, people executed for “working with the enemy,” etc. all over Austria and Germany at the time.

Today, even though we may have MANY disagreements with the Germans they pose no threat to us; no one would ever expect Germany to attack the US (nor any other country for that matter.) I truly believe that in 5 or maybe 10 years the same will apply to Iraq.

You think out president is not doing a very good job leading our armed forces. Well, I am not a politician and frankly don’t know much about what makes a president good or bad. However, I am sure you must remember that not too long ago President Ronald Reagan was labeled as “war monger” by most liberals? Today, even many liberal European politicians (social-democrats) acknowledge his role in liberating the “other half” of Europe from the Soviet domination.

Is it possible that 5 years from now the war in Iraq will be considered the beginning of a successful transition to democracy in the entire Middle East? Why is democracy possible in Germany and Japan, but is considered a utopian dream for an Islamic society?

I firmly believe that our soldiers’ sacrifices today will create a better tomorrow. Our troops are liberating Iraq from Islamofascist domination and eventually it will lead to a more moderate, inclusive and a safer Middle East = World.

I know you, and many others, disagree with my views, and I respect that, but I hope you will still show our men and women in uniforms some respect and appreciation for their sacrifices. They need our support right now, NOT our arguments. Those should be directed to our politicians!

In summary = Kudos to the Delta & UPS pilots who showed their support for our troops!

Sorry about the lengthy reply, hope I kept you awake…

av80r

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Exactly you don't have to agree with "the cause"...just show some respect for those who choose to make the sacrifice for our country.

Thats a given in my opinion. Anyone who shows disrespect to the people putting their lives on the line for our country should be beaten severely.

 

[milplt]

Let's not forget that we've been in or over or near Iraq through 3 presidents and for more than 14 years straight, now. Anyone who has been in the military (especially aircrew) for the last 10 years is THOROUGHLY familiar with that fact. Seems to me that this president is finally getting around to finishing up that long deployment. It may take a little longer to do the job right, and that's what matters to me. That those who sacrificed over there don't have to look back on a war and casualties that was all for naught (aka Vietnam). As for the length of the deployment, how long has that pesky Balkan situation been going on? The previous Pres. said that we would be out 1-yr from the Dayton accords (Nov '96) and I don't remember the outcry about missing that deadline. At least I couldn't hear any outcry while I was over there through most of the end of '95 and first half of '96. And when I came home, no one bought me any coffee. I'll say that any of those little gestures go a very long way to the individual soldiers, more than the rhetoric. Good on them. By the way, I fly on Delta monthly and the crew has rolled out the red carpet for the soldiers traveling on R&R on every single flight that I have been on (to include the PA announcement and applause just today). I've also noticed that once the FA's start talking and making a deal about the soldiers, the other passengers start talking with them, also.

 

[say again]

I think it's great what these pilots did. It shows quite a bit of class on there parts. These young folks have no choice in where they go, the fact is they are over there and it's great to see some people who appreciate it. I applaud these pilots for showing the support and thanks to OUR troops!!!!

 

[100-1/2]

Hooray for Delta even if it is Co. Policy. Phooey on the rest of yall that want to hijack a great thread.

UAL78....WORD! and THANK YOU!


Thought for the day:

If you consider that there have been an average of 160,000 troops in the
Iraq theater of operations during the last 22 months, that gives a
firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000. The rate in Washington D.C. is
80.6 per 100,000. That means that you are 25% more likely to be shot and
killed in our Nation's Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun
control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: We should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C

100-1/2

 

[Wingsweep]

Ymms

G2,
You're entitled to your opinions. Here's mine: You make me sick. V/R