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bluejuice787 said:
Not sure what pay and benefits has to do with doing the right thing? Would $20000 or $100000 a year more make me a better person?

No one owes you anything.

Juice

If I go to work for a company, that company owes me. It's called compensation. You are correct that money doesn't make you a better person. However, money is how we compensate people for the work they do in their jobs. It's how our economy works. Employees that get results and add more value to the company should be well compensated. This is only fair.

Beyond fairness, compensation drives the incentive to not only come to work, but to excel at what we do. It's the lifeblood of a free market. Money is an excellent motivator. Conversely hard work, not fairly compensated, is a great de-motivator.
 
Juvat said:
If I go to work for a company, that company owes me. It's called compensation. You are correct that money doesn't make you a better person. However, money is how we compensate people for the work they do in their jobs. It's how our economy works. Employees that get results and add more value to the company should be well compensated. This is only fair.

Beyond fairness, compensation drives the incentive to not only come to work, but to excel at what we do. It's the lifeblood of a free market. Money is an excellent motivator. Conversely hard work, not fairly compensated, is a great de-motivator.

Thankyou for that compensation lesson. From now on we over here at B6 will respond accordingly. "Miss, sorry but I can't help you...you'll have to find the gate on your own. I believe my company does not fairly compensate me for the job I do now, so any act of generosity on my part is no longer part of the package. Neither is smiling, giving directions, or offering a helping hand while you struggle with carry-ons, strollers, and two young children. Now if I was to get a few more dollars an hour...well now...that's a different story. Hope you make it to the gate miss...but truthfully, I really don't give a sh!t. And if you don't like it...you can always walk...er...swim (in this case). Have a nice day...whups...wasn't supposed to throw that in."

Is this what you meant?
 
Juvat said:
Beyond fairness, compensation drives the incentive to not only come to work, but to excel at what we do. It's the lifeblood of a free market. Money is an excellent motivator. Conversely hard work, not fairly compensated, is a great de-motivator.

Another graduate from University of Phoenix on-line business school.
 
People act the same way no matter what they are paid. If you aren't going to help a lady struggling with children through security if you are paid 40K per year, getting paid 200K per year isn't going to magically make you help her. It is who you are. If you are the kind of person that brings compensation into motivating you into doing what is right, deep down you are a selfish person that contributes very little to society. I ususlly help people when I'm at the airport and I'm not even working. In that case, I'm compensated NOTHING. I just do it because it is the right thing to do and it helps someone to have a better day.
 
Agreed!

Truckdriver said:
People act the same way no matter what they are paid. If you aren't going to help a lady struggling with children through security if you are paid 40K per year, getting paid 200K per year isn't going to magically make you help her. It is who you are. If you are the kind of person that brings compensation into motivating you into doing what is right, deep down you are a selfish person that contributes very little to society. I ususlly help people when I'm at the airport and I'm not even working. In that case, I'm compensated NOTHING. I just do it because it is the right thing to do and it helps someone to have a better day.

Agreed, Truckdriver! That is why the Targeted Selection process works at B6, that is the kind of employee we look for and strive to hire. Not everyone is a perfect fit, it is all about doing the RIGHT thing. Good post.
 
Truckdriver said:
People act the same way no matter what they are paid. If you aren't going to help a lady struggling with children through security if you are paid 40K per year, getting paid 200K per year isn't going to magically make you help her. It is who you are. If you are the kind of person that brings compensation into motivating you into doing what is right, deep down you are a selfish person that contributes very little to society. I ususlly help people when I'm at the airport and I'm not even working. In that case, I'm compensated NOTHING. I just do it because it is the right thing to do and it helps someone to have a better day.

Excellent post. I call it manners or in the Grand Old Tradition ... chivalry. Sometimes helping out, is just that -- a reflection of your character and your upbringing. That being said ... we sure could use a little more green at jb.
 
Call it what you want but my wife felt that the agent went above and beyond to make her feel extremely comfortable. My wife is not a novice at traveling. She has non reved with me at Pan Am, Delta, NWA and American. She is fairly familiar with how the system works.

In fact, she was so taken back by the agent, that she told me that she would have been willing to pay a premium for the service she received. Unfortunately she could not remember the individuals name or I would be sending a letter to Neelman/Barger instead of just a post on this board.

Traveling by yourself with two children under 3 can be a real chore to say the least.

Once again, thank you.
 
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Thanks for the trip report G4G5. It's nice to see something not wholly negative on this board. I'm glad the product still works, too.
 
viking737 said:
She has non reved with me at Pan Am, Delta, NWA and American.


How did you manage to work for all of these airlines?

I guess he applied and got hired. Amazing!
 
Truckdriver said:
People act the same way no matter what they are paid. If you aren't going to help a lady struggling with children through security if you are paid 40K per year, getting paid 200K per year isn't going to magically make you help her. It is who you are. If you are the kind of person that brings compensation into motivating you into doing what is right, deep down you are a selfish person that contributes very little to society. I ususlly help people when I'm at the airport and I'm not even working. In that case, I'm compensated NOTHING. I just do it because it is the right thing to do and it helps someone to have a better day.

Great post! I've flown with guys who make great salaries that went out of their way to help customers and I've flown with guys who feel that it's below them no matter what they're paid. Compensation has nothing to do with it. If it does, then only senior captains would be helping customers.
Flying passengers is a customer service job.
 
G4G5

If you are old enought to have worked at Pan Am et al, and still can produce a 3 month old baby,,, well sir,,, you are my hero!

There is hope for all us poops!

Hung
 

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