Exactly. There's no gold just like you said. Without it, we have next to no leverage. You fight and negotiate with leverage, and there just isn't any today. And, as you already stated, we are not owners, we just provide services to the owners. My viable solution is one that everyone agrees is impossible. EVER professional airline pilot be on one list, a national ALPA seniority list, that airlines contract from to work at their airline. Like management, when one 20 yr old company expires, you go to the next company with your experience and start at an equal or higher salary. Not start over in a RJ at 20/hr all over again. My solution is one national seniority list.
There are too many things wrong with this to list. I'll make it short. The primarary failure of one list equates the skills and years of effort to get on the list. This is endured at a single carrier to some degree but a whole country? To equate a highly trained military pilot with a degree or civilian with a laundry list of ac achievements, clean background and a degree with someone, like in your example of Buffalo(a garbage truck driver from gulfstream with numerous failures), if naive at best.
The pilots at failing airlines would love that, but pilots at healthy airline huff and puff against the idea. The logistics are impossible. "it's a pipe dream, not happening." That is my ONLY solution. The ONLY leverage. Other than that, ALPA will continue to be a waste of time, and sell one group out in front of another, and the cycle repeats.
Yes I'll agree, but as with most things in aviation, true changes come from blood. There has to be a crash first before changes are implemented. We've pushed for rest/duty regulations for quite some time but it took a Colgan Q crashing in a BUF neighborhood before new rest/duty rules were finally pushed through. Colgan for the longest time was non-ALPA, but that didn't stop the government from reacting to a blood accident.
So...what does this have to do with anything?...and who is WE? If not ALPA volunteers who?....VA pilots currently doing work? No its current legacy and regional ALPA pilots on numerous committees.
Excuse you, VX is FULL of pilots who have come from failed ALPA carriers! 20 yr Aloha guys, who watched their ALPA airline get undercut by a greedy CEO of another ALPA regional airline (quite illegally, I might add, considering he first played as a potential buyer of Aloha and then operated 5 RJs below Aloha's operating costs). Or the tons of ALPA Midwest Express pilots we have, and I don't need to re-hash their story here, that's been told true over time and ALPA stood by and completely washed away their careers. Oh that's right, I see Midwest Express E170s now by Republic Corporation. Or Champion. Or ATA. Just who do you think works at VX? RJ pilots? Only recently did VX really start taking RJ people in bulk quantities. For the majority of its operation, VX has hired tons of pilots from failed ALPA carriers as already mentioned. We have guys who spend decades doing volunteer work at their previous failed carrier before coming to VX because their ALPA carrier folded. VX pilots are majority all ex-ALPA, many with volunteer work.
Here again since you quoted my paragraph I assume this is suppose to be an explanation. This is nothing but a list of some pilots hardships, it has nothing to do with my point. How to you come up with this diatribe of nonsense. Yes former ALPA, where they may have done something. Again....name one grass root effort or committee that VA is on(like the thousands of ALPA pilots) to enhance our interest in the areas I mentioned above?
