I love the fact this jokers make more than a lot of us. I was sitting a MDW the other day near some TSA people, and just got pissed off in a big way. Some highschool dropout loser speaking her best getto english she could was bitching that she was only going to make 40,000 this year. 40K! I've been flying for 10 years, and flying 121 for 3 and have never made more then 30K.
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vinman, yeah i have some doc martens, no metal shanks, they use balsawood, no beeping (as long as you don't have other large quantities of metal) just make sure to get them directly from doc marten, i bought mine from their online store, got 2day shipping, and it was still cheaper than any of the local stores prices.
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just make sure to stay away from the 'industrial' line, they're chuck full of steel
i'll say this, tsa employees are definately worse in larger/"urban" areas....
vinman, yeah i have some doc martens, no metal shanks, they use balsawood, no beeping (as long as you don't have other large quantities of metal) just make sure to get them directly from doc marten, i bought mine from their online store, got 2day shipping, and it was still cheaper than any of the local stores prices.
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just make sure to stay away from the 'industrial' line, they're chuck full of steel
i'll say this, tsa employees are definately worse in larger/"urban" areas....
Dash8, many thanks for the info.
Incidentally, I have found the smaller airports to be the worst. Apparently they have "more" to prove. One city I fly into is only served by one carrier, and on some flights in, we sit for an hour before flying back out. Of course we shut down and head inside. If we go past the ticket counter into the terminal, we have to go back through security to gain access to the airplane again. In other words, if we go to the bathroom, we have to be strip-searched again because on the flight in, I must not have known about that crash ax. Thanks for listening to this rant. I'm sure we all have our stories.
Incidentally, I have found the smaller airports to be the worst. Apparently they have "more" to prove. One city I fly into is only served by one carrier, and on some flights in, we sit for an hour before flying back out. Of course we shut down and head inside. If we go past the ticket counter into the terminal, we have to go back through security to gain access to the airplane again. In other words, if we go to the bathroom, we have to be strip-searched again because on the flight in, I must not have known about that crash ax. Thanks for listening to this rant. I'm sure we all have our stories.
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If anyone reads Airways magazine, the Flightlines column in the May issue is interesting. Mr Drury describes some of his dealings with TSA pinheads...there might be some writers embellishment of course, but overall it sounds a lot like what we read on this bulletin board. I guess I've been lucky so far and haven't had any serious run-ins with the TSA. I just suck it up and try to play along, within reason of course. I've met some really nice TSA agents...there's even a female agent here that I'd swear flirts with me...but for every cool agent, there are several more out there on a power trip, just waiting to hassle crew members.
Today I get to wear my new Doc Martens for the first time, and I'm really looking forward to keeping my shoes on while going though screening. Oh, happy happy day!
Today I get to wear my new Doc Martens for the first time, and I'm really looking forward to keeping my shoes on while going though screening. Oh, happy happy day!
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My bad,
what i meant to say was that the people working in the urban places we're more unruly and unpleasant as a general rule, but your correct, many of the security personal in smaller/rural locals are more fervent about their "responsibilities" as far as security personel.
But also in my experience, airports only served by aircraft of less than so many seats (i believe 50 but don't quote me on that) flight crews are not required to pass through security. suffice it to say that the localities often make up their own rules in those regards, one rural airport for instance that i go to on occasion allows crews showing up to FLY a leg to by-pass security, but a person FLYING the leg in to this station, then deadheading out on the very same aircraft, has to deplane, then proceed through security to board the plane again, despite already being in a secure area, talk about blatent hypocrisy.
JB, enjoy life without having to take your shoes off for people who are both too old and too young to work at mcdonalds.
My bad,
what i meant to say was that the people working in the urban places we're more unruly and unpleasant as a general rule, but your correct, many of the security personal in smaller/rural locals are more fervent about their "responsibilities" as far as security personel.
But also in my experience, airports only served by aircraft of less than so many seats (i believe 50 but don't quote me on that) flight crews are not required to pass through security. suffice it to say that the localities often make up their own rules in those regards, one rural airport for instance that i go to on occasion allows crews showing up to FLY a leg to by-pass security, but a person FLYING the leg in to this station, then deadheading out on the very same aircraft, has to deplane, then proceed through security to board the plane again, despite already being in a secure area, talk about blatent hypocrisy.
JB, enjoy life without having to take your shoes off for people who are both too old and too young to work at mcdonalds.
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The guy I'm flying with this month says that he goes out of his way to make the TSA-Holes miserable when he has spare time. If he has to J/S to work and has a long sit he'll put coins in all his pockets, cellphone, tweezers, fingernail clippers, etc. etc. etc. to make the detector go as far into the red as possible. Then he gets a private screening.
"I think it's your shoes."
"No, it's not my shoes. But it might be my cell phone!"
Every single little beep he calmly takes the coins out of his pocket and puts them in the bowl... On and on and on. Unlaces his shoes all the way to send them through the machine, laces them back all the way... Asks if he can go. Keeps eye contact with the screener and walks off with the bowl of his things in hand. I think he has three bowls in our crew room right now for anyone who needs a doggy dish.
His goal in life is to walk off with one of the big plastic trays. I can't wait to see it!
I'm definitely going to do this. And every time I get a smart alec TSA-Hole I'm going to file a report. I imagine if we flood the machine with complaints it will slow to an abject crawl.
"I think it's your shoes."
"No, it's not my shoes. But it might be my cell phone!"
Every single little beep he calmly takes the coins out of his pocket and puts them in the bowl... On and on and on. Unlaces his shoes all the way to send them through the machine, laces them back all the way... Asks if he can go. Keeps eye contact with the screener and walks off with the bowl of his things in hand. I think he has three bowls in our crew room right now for anyone who needs a doggy dish.
His goal in life is to walk off with one of the big plastic trays. I can't wait to see it!
I'm definitely going to do this. And every time I get a smart alec TSA-Hole I'm going to file a report. I imagine if we flood the machine with complaints it will slow to an abject crawl.
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Absolutely worthless! The only difference since pre 9/11 is the ridiculous hassle and inconvenience, security is no better now than before.
As someone else stated, people just want an illusion of security. There seems to be no end to the knee-jerk reactions to aviation. The TSA is simply the biggest knee-jerk in history. Not to mention a violation of civil rights, and an excuse for a lot of uneducated, overpaid punks to harass professionals. Hopefully sometime soon, the TSA will come crumbling down.
As someone else stated, people just want an illusion of security. There seems to be no end to the knee-jerk reactions to aviation. The TSA is simply the biggest knee-jerk in history. Not to mention a violation of civil rights, and an excuse for a lot of uneducated, overpaid punks to harass professionals. Hopefully sometime soon, the TSA will come crumbling down.
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While I agree that it's a awful ridiculous to give the flight crews such a hard time, I don't think we should try and give them a hard time and bitch and moan about them. Maybe we should ask how to make the system better if you don't like it.
Filling your pockets with coins, asking for private screenings, and making their job difficult is not going to solve anything. In fact, thats a little immature if you ask me. In any job you are going to find egotistical people, people that want to give you a hard time, whatever. I mean, who hasn't flown with pilots that are that way? Or police? I mean you name it, there are those kind of people. And it sounds like all TSA are a%%holes, but really, I think most of them are pretty nice if you are nice to them. Just like anything its your own attitude, don't complain, just go through and move on with life. They are doing a job just like you are. Whether they are educated, not educated, speak english well or not, make more or less money, it just doesn't matter. Just accept it and go on. The problem is that the system flawed, so maybe making it better is the side we should focus on.
Filling your pockets with coins, asking for private screenings, and making their job difficult is not going to solve anything. In fact, thats a little immature if you ask me. In any job you are going to find egotistical people, people that want to give you a hard time, whatever. I mean, who hasn't flown with pilots that are that way? Or police? I mean you name it, there are those kind of people. And it sounds like all TSA are a%%holes, but really, I think most of them are pretty nice if you are nice to them. Just like anything its your own attitude, don't complain, just go through and move on with life. They are doing a job just like you are. Whether they are educated, not educated, speak english well or not, make more or less money, it just doesn't matter. Just accept it and go on. The problem is that the system flawed, so maybe making it better is the side we should focus on.
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one TSA guy i met was a former 767capt from TWA, many may nedd the income. at my base, i have to take off my shoes since they have a steel plate in them. as for enhancing security, they give the .
my problem is we won't racially profile which is what needs to be done. our double talking gov't doesn't want to face bad press when coming up for reelection. everything always rides on getting reelected. meanwhile, grandma strips downs to her girdle. "see, no guns or ammo in here , sonny boy!"
my problem is we won't racially profile which is what needs to be done. our double talking gov't doesn't want to face bad press when coming up for reelection. everything always rides on getting reelected. meanwhile, grandma strips downs to her girdle. "see, no guns or ammo in here , sonny boy!"
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