SWAPA wins grievance with company

[Just thinking]

Here we are.... years later and people are still blaming the faceless "ALPA".
ALPA is nothing more than a tool that is an available resource for the PILOTS that are represented by PILOTS that are voted into a position. Those pilots are spineless pukes that have to hide behind an attorney before they say anything to their constituents.... it is not ALPA's fault. If those spineless pukes purposely restrict the factual information from the pilot group, it is not ALPA's fault. If your representatives waste your money with boon-doggle trips it is not ALPA's fault.

The fault lies with the pilots not taking an active role in the governance of their career. If you can't bother yourself with taking the time to vote, to educate yourself about the issues, to babysit the budget, to review the notes from the meetings and to hold those duly elected representative accountable for their actions..... you are along for the ride.

In house or out house union..... it does not matter..... your fellow pilots are the ones that are going to screw you over. Trips to France for ICAO conference. Golf outings while on "official business". Lavish dinners expensed to the pilot group. Abuse of scheduling loop holes to earn way more than your peers for doing less work.

Jet Blue pilots.......Use ALPA as a nanny for your local council and MEC. Anytime you feel something is being brushed under the rug, give the national office a call.

When it comes time to negotiate a integration of lists, remember that your "trusted" representatives are the ones that you have to watch out for with your future. Ask any FAT pilot if they would do anything differently. Learn from our mistakes. This is not unique to our situation. Every pilot group out there deals with the same issues.

We got screwed by our fellow pilots...... the MEC, LEC, MC...... all of them are complicit in their failure.

Best of luck to you.

 

[Ty Webb]

Here we are.... years later and people are still blaming the faceless "ALPA".
ALPA is nothing more than a tool that is an available resource for the PILOTS that are represented by PILOTS that are voted into a position. Those pilots are spineless pukes that have to hide behind an attorney before they say anything to their constituents.... it is not ALPA's fault. If those spineless pukes purposely restrict the factual information from the pilot group, it is not ALPA's fault. If your representatives waste your money with boon-doggle trips it is not ALPA's fault.

The fault lies with the pilots not taking an active role in the governance of their career. If you can't bother yourself with taking the time to vote, to educate yourself about the issues, to babysit the budget, to review the notes from the meetings and to hold those duly elected representative accountable for their actions..... you are along for the ride.

In house or out house union..... it does not matter..... your fellow pilots are the ones that are going to screw you over. Trips to France for ICAO conference. Golf outings while on "official business". Lavish dinners expensed to the pilot group. Abuse of scheduling loop holes to earn way more than your peers for doing less work.

Jet Blue pilots.......Use ALPA as a nanny for your local council and MEC. Anytime you feel something is being brushed under the rug, give the national office a call.

When it comes time to negotiate a integration of lists, remember that your "trusted" representatives are the ones that you have to watch out for with your future. Ask any FAT pilot if they would do anything differently. Learn from our mistakes. This is not unique to our situation. Every pilot group out there deals with the same issues.

We got screwed by our fellow pilots...... the MEC, LEC, MC...... all of them are complicit in their failure.

Best of luck to you.

Well said. I'm going to start a new pilot union called SCAPE-GOAT

Strategic Coalition of Airline Pilots - Enabling Gonadless Air Trannies

Sign up cards and bag tags will be in your V-files next week.

 

[redflyer65]

Sorry Ty.

You can't have BAG tags if your Gonadless.

 

[ATLplt]

Watch SWA and JetBlue merge after they unionize. I wonder if the AirTran folks get the shaft again or if Gary will protect "his guys", regardless of their pedigree...

 

[Ty Webb]

Watch SWA and JetBlue merge after they unionize. I wonder if the AirTran folks get the shaft again or if Gary will protect "his guys", regardless of their pedigree...

Well, if the last episode was entitled "The Flintstones buy the Jetsons", what would a JB purchase be called?

Inquiring minds, and all. . . . . .

 

[humveedriver]

Well, if the last episode was entitled "The Flintstones buy the Jetsons", what would a JB purchase be called?

Inquiring minds, and all. . . . . .

Duck Dynasty buys Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.

 

[canyonblue]

Well, if the last episode was entitled "The Flintstones buy the Jetsons".........

I was told it was "The Mod Squad bought Sanford and Son".

 

[ATLplt]

I was told it was "The Mod Squad bought Sanford and Son".

You were told wrong.

 

[RLAblows]

I was told it was "The Mod Squad bought Sanford and Son".

racist! Where's your sensitivity awareness?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Yes, I do. And I can tell you that when management decides to go that route, you can't keep acting like things haven't changed. When their tactics change, yours need to as well. That means picketing, billboards, radio ads, etc. It's the only way to build leverage when the RLA is stacked against you.

You guys need to listen to this guy. Airtran almost had a contract in 7 years with this and other gems. SWAPA should invite him out to Dallas to pick his brain on pilot negotiations or there will never be a new contract!