SWAPA wants all FAPA Pilots

[Red Baron]

FWIW,
Gary spoke to pilots at BWI yesterday. I asked a pilot who attended if Gary mentioned anything about Lynx. Gary said that Lynx will be a part of the acquisition. We have to take them to sweeten the deal. As far as the future of Lynx, he gave no definitive answer as to what we will do with them if we get the bid.

RB

 

[waveflyer]

Don't you think there are a lot of markets Swa doesn't serve with the 737 that could be opened up with the Q400? that's why it's so important to get Lynx in on the same pilot list and at the same pay-maybe Swa ends up liking the Q400 and it represents a lot of growth. After the last decade- it's a possibility that is worth the windfall this small group of pilots would be getting.

 

[T B O N E]

Nervana

Probies NEVER buy a beer during the first year...........NEVER!

Now your talking "quality of life"

 

[T B O N E]

Lynx / SWA Mins

I am still not too thrilled about this Lynx stuff. We cannot let this slip under the radar. I do not want small planes under the SWA name....at the same time unless "we" SWAPA are flying them...for the same pay rates as the 737. If a 1st year guy at lynx is brought on board here they are getting a well over 100% increase in pay.....I am also curious how SWA mins are being considered in this whole mess. At lynx it looks like it is 1000 total and 100 Multi.....the insurance can't possible allow this....

Insurance? Really? C' mon

Not really sure what the mins are at Lynx. The "average" in my class was 5000 hrs+. It’s a good group of guys/gals. I must admit I'm happy to be associated with them. All have 121 experience or military, one is in the current SWA pool.

I understand the pensive pondering about a smaller plane, believe me.
I just hope to hell we have a job after this all shakes out. For me, flying for or being stapled to the SWA list would be like going from poverty to the penthouse in one day. Don't get me wrong, I love my job! But a chance to fly for SWA at this juncture is amazing.

Just my opinion....

 

[slaquer5]

..I am also curious how SWA mins are being considered in this whole mess. At lynx it looks like it is 1000 total and 100 Multi.....the insurance can't possible allow this....

Brother i would not be to concerned with that, the best pilots I have flown with are the mesaba and skyway pilots. I am sure lynx pilots would be the same.

 

[Cometman]

Insurance? Really? C' mon

Not really sure what the mins are at Lynx. The "average" in my class was 5000 hrs+. It’s a good group of guys/gals. I must admit I'm happy to be associated with them. All have 121 experience or military, one is in the current SWA pool.

I understand the pensive pondering about a smaller plane, believe me.
I just hope to hell we have a job after this all shakes out. For me, flying for or being stapled to the SWA list would be like going from poverty to the penthouse in one day. Don't get me wrong, I love my job! But a chance to fly for SWA at this juncture is amazing.

Just my opinion....

Hopefully all the other pilots at F9 and Lynx think the same as you. It is a great opportunity that will only happen once in your life time. You are being honest. However, some people will say that you are being honest because you are with Lynx not F9. There is no difference, F9 is on life support right now.

 

[cale42]

I think T-Bone hit the Lynx feeling exactly on the head. We all know it would be a windfall beyond belief, and would be extremely grateful.

The bottom 2/3's of our FO list has all been hired during this economic downturn meaning pretty much all were prior 121 or military. I would guess average time in that bottom 2/3 is 4000+ it is at least 10% ex military, and many have significant turbine PIC.

I say this not to in any way imply that it wouldn't still be possibly the greatest windfall in the history of aviation just to assuage some fears that SWA would be be getting green pilots.

cale

 

[Whine Lover]

" SWA and F9 currently fly to 30 of the same cities from Denver. If SWA owns F9, they (F9) surely will not continue to operate all of those flights. "

Bingo. SWA will operate those flights.

Good Luck.


YKW

 

[huronip]

Now your talking "quality of life"

I bought plenty flying out of PHX on probation. Never in DAL or HOU.

 

[fiel12]

I bought plenty flying out of PHX on probation. Never in DAL or HOU.

Sorry, double post.

 

[fiel12]

I bought plenty flying out of PHX on probation. Never in DAL or HOU.

Cheapskates! That deserves a call to professional standards.

 

[FBN0223]

Not really sure what the mins are at Lynx. The "average" in my class was 5000 hrs+. It’s a good group of guys/gals. I must admit I'm happy to be associated with them. All have 121 experience or military, one is in the current SWA pool. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Yeah, I know a few guys over at Lynx. All have decent experience. One of the guys was a Captain at Big Sky for several years. They are good guys and would fit in well at Southwest.

 

[starchkr]

If i remember right, when Lynx went looking for pilots they didn't go looking for the bottom of the barrel like some of the regionals do. They required some good times for applications and they chose only the best.

 

[Porch]

Many ZW BAe-146 Capt's with 15K-20K+ flight hours are working for Lynx b/c they didn't want to commute to PHL.... there's some good sticks over there. Lots of WOM/referral's to get get hired, most are great guys. Most of the guys I know that got hired were regional RJ Capt's, same reason... commuting

 

[Whine Lover]

" the best pilots I have flown with are the mesaba and skyway pilots."

Yes. They are The Best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgFLPzOMMt0


Unlike ALL the BEST PILOTS that came BEFORE THEM:

- PanAM

- Eastern

- Braniff

- TWA

- Ozark

- Frontier

- Allegheny

- ETC,.

They were "The BEST".


Love,

YKMKR

 

[Porch]

Were all the same, trained the same way... its the attitude that matters anymore

 

[luv2fly]

Talking with my buddy today he said Lynx has at least 2 FO's that he knows of that got fired from Mesa! Can't wait!

 

[Rook]

Brother i would not be to concerned with that, the best pilots I have flown with are the mesaba and skyway pilots. I am sure lynx pilots would be the same.

Beer's on me if you ever end up in DTW Captain. Thanks.:beer:

 

[FL250]

It is hard to say EXACTLY how all of this if going to unfold. As we saw with TA-1/09, It is going to be a real challenge for Gary to make happy, such a large pilot group, across the board. With that said, I have great faith that both SWA and SWAPA will pull things together and make this happen so that everyone comes out on top! There is no doubt that our management views acquisition of Frontier as a mode of future growth and prosperity for the company. In the end, of course, the Company has to be the real winner.

A little over 5 years ago I landed my dream job here at SWA after 20 years in the Navy. Just the other day while passing through Dallas, I got to shake Herb's hand as he cracked a big smile and grabbed a big bear hug from Colleen. It's truly a big family here. I'm extremely proud to be a part of Southwest and have thoroughly enjoyed flying along side every single Captain from day one. Despite the occasional negative publicity rendered by postings from a very few of our members here on this website, SWA is the best job any of you will ever have in this business, trust me.

To everyone: Try not to let the rumors and speculations sway your opinion of this deal as you await the final plan as it unfolds. Have some faith in the system.....I think you will like your piece of the pie in the end.

To all of our Frontier brothers out there: Lets make this work so we can all be on the same team! I look forward working alongside everyone of you. Transitions are never fun, but in the end, you are really gonna LUV it here!

 

[dougdrvr]

Talking with my buddy today he said Lynx has at least 2 FO's that he knows of that got fired from Mesa! Can't wait!

Depending on what it was for, it could be a badge of honor