SWA took one step closer to being a regional carrier

[Slug]

No go continue to not fix anything but lie to these people how great everything is.

I luv drunk typing. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Slug
I'm not as think you drunk I am!

 

[Mach 80]

Every airline I have been with always had 2% to 5% of the pilots who bitched and complained all the time no matter what. Each airline had a group always whining about their union officers no matter how good things were. Apparently SWA has a few. This at an an airline where the pilots are getting one of the highest pay rates for the equipment, super job security, steady growth, and probably one of the best schedules in the industry relative seniority, a management that don't try to financially rape the employees every chance they get, etc. Out of nearly 5,000 SWA pilots, all of about 20 of the same old names repeatedly and constantly bitch and complain about everything on one of thier pilot forums. You'd think they were working at some shoestring, 3rd tier outfit. These same guys whould be doing the same at any other place they worked because this is their personality. These guys need to learn to appreciate where they are in the industry and in life. One day they'll be old men wishing they had led a more joyful and appreciative life but for now they're young, full of testosteron, and enjoying a fight. You almost feel sorry for these guys. They'll be bitching about the casket they're being buried in till their muffled whining is drowned out by the dirt they're buried under.

 

[pilotyip]

Great post Mach 80, sounds like you have figured it out.

 

[enigma]

Great post Mach 80, sounds like you have figured it out.

but does he have a college degree? He can't have it figured out unless he has one you know.

enigma

 

[pilotyip]

love the tractor, thanks for bringing it back. We know college does not define the individual

 

[SWA/FO]

Only if you went to the "Harvard of the Skies" then it makes all the difference.

 

[pilotyip]

"Harvard of the Skies", USA Jet ?

 

[7S3W7A]

Only if you went to the "Harvard of the Skies" then it makes all the difference.

That's all you have after all your ranting. "He doesn't work here so ignore him." Bury it in the sand some more until you get f-ed again. This time it'll be because Ike sells us out and we'll be doing cargo back side of the clock crap with little regard for the fact it has zero in our contract about it. He's probably in Utah helping the treasurer count his, I mean, our money he stole. STOLE and yet no punishment. ZERO. SWAPA is bullshit and I'm here to out it to everyone who thinks it such a great deal. If it was so great then why didn't anyone want to come here when the legacy's were hiring? Because it sucks. I don't care what you compare it to. We have assinine pilots working here that were hired during those times because they couldn't get hired anywhere else. How many legacy carrier aircraft have hit a light post in the last 10 years. A fucking light post!!

All new prospectus go to FedEx.

 

[SWA/FO]

7S3W7A, I was not even talking to you. Harvard of the Skies =
EMBRY-RIDDLE Aeronautical College of Knowledge.

Please 7S3W7A make your deams come true and go to Fed Ex. At least apply there, so you can start in the right direction. I find this funny...because you make such a big deal about "flying freight on the backside of the clock" - I wonder what a new-hire at Fed Ex would be doing thesedays? I wonder whats in their contract, Dumba$$?.... We don't need your "legacy" way of thinking here, Southwest is a great place to be. Below is your quote just incase you forgot what you typed before. :crying:

This time it'll be because Ike sells us out and we'll be doing cargo back side of the clock crap with little regard for the fact it has zero in our contract about it.

 

[N1kawotg]

737- the rumors about cargo or just that. However, after flying with someone who just had a checkride. Its going to happen and it will be all day flying. We're taking our high timed -300s and putting a door, no back and forth between pax and cargo. I for one would like that every now and then- sometimes dealing with pax is too much. 24 mil per cargo airplane vs 2 mil per pax. That's alot of profit sharing molla. As for putting your app in with fedex-goodluck- I pretty sure they don't except apps from current major pilots only furloughed, but I could be wrong? We might be stuck with ya.

 

[enigma]

That's all you have after all your ranting. "He doesn't work here so ignore him." Bury it in the sand some more until you get f-ed again. This time it'll be because Ike sells us out and we'll be doing cargo back side of the clock crap with little regard for the fact it has zero in our contract about it. He's probably in Utah helping the treasurer count his, I mean, our money he stole. STOLE and yet no punishment. ZERO. SWAPA is bullshoot and I'm here to out it to everyone who thinks it such a great deal. If it was so great then why didn't anyone want to come here when the legacy's were hiring? Because it sucks. I don't care what you compare it to. We have assinine pilots working here that were hired during those times because they couldn't get hired anywhere else. How many legacy carrier aircraft have hit a light post in the last 10 years. A Fricking light post!!

All new prospectus go to FedEx.

7S3W7A, I don't know you, nor your background, and I certainly don't know how you got hired at SWA, but you obviously did so. Which brings me to a question, why do you stay? I've been around for a while, and I've yet to see a corporation change it's way of doing things. SWA is no different. If you don't like it, leave; because you aren't going to change it. I can assure you that your life will be better once you get to a place where you can concentrate on your personal life instead of being consumed by on the job problems. My current workplace is a ripe environment for bi+chin and moaning, and I used to take part and life could get miserable; but I finally decided that said bi+chin and moaning didn't do anything but make ME mad. It didn't accomplish one thing to advance my position.

Here's what I did. One, I took a position with the union (membership, a non-argumentative slot ) so that I could have a meaningful input into goings on. Two, I just decided to spend my time working on things that I could control.

7S3W7A, if your only intent is to flame, continue. But if you really want to change things, flaming on the internet isn't your best venue.

In the mean time, if you don't want the job, move over and let me have it. I've done my time at far worse jobs than SWA and would be glad to have yours. Or, keep working and wish me luck. Maybe we can both laugh about this over beers in future years.

enigma

 

[SWA/FO]

As for putting your app in with fedex-goodluck- I pretty sure they don't except apps from current major pilots only furloughed, but I could be wrong?

A company like Fed Ex only hires good/great people so 7S3W7A will be out of luck. It might look a little funny coming from SWA and the fact that he doesn't want to fly freight on the backside of the clock.

 

[satpak77]

you guys just keep giving 7S3W7A more horsepower by responding to his posts....I recommend we all put him on Ignore and he will go away, back to Airliners.net

 

[SWA/FO]

Ok Pat,

I guess you never responded to anyones posts? How did you get your "owned" column? Maybe, I'm trying to get my own "Owned Column". Plus, how can you sit on your hands when you have a great comeback? Thats hard to do. This 737SWA fella called me out to play.. he is getting an extra help'n of whoop a$$. :angryfire

 

[satpak77]

Ok Pat,

I guess you never responded to anyones posts? How did you get your "owned" column? Maybe, I'm trying to get my own "Owned Column". Plus, how can you sit on your hands when you have a great comeback? Thats hard to do. This 737SWA fella called me out to play.. he is getting an extra help'n of whoop a$$. :angryfire

dude I am on your side here, I am just saying we are wasting precious
O-2 on this guy, he obviously is just out to stir the pot

 

[waverunner]

Man 7S3W7A, is that all you ever do is biotch? good grief! go already! Bring on the freight. Bring on the freight! Plenty of guys are sure to be willing to fly freight back side of the clock. Myself included.

 

[SWA/FO]

I like you to satpak77..... I was just saying sometimes you just can't let a good burn get away. I know we are wasting time on him. This whole board is about wasting time.

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

Hey satpak77: The only thing you "own" is a big mouth. Take my handle off of your signature.

 

[ivauir]

Man 7S3W7A, is that all you ever do is biotch? good grief! go already! Bring on the freight. Bring on the freight! Plenty of guys are sure to be willing to fly freight back side of the clock. Myself included.

They could easily put out as a charter so that the whinners don't have to do it.

Besides, I'd be really burned at Ike (or anyone else) who stood in the way of this company continuing to innovate.

 

[Mach 80]

>>>If it was so great then why didn't anyone want to come here when the legacy's were hiring? <<<

They were chasing the higher pay rates, that's true, but they forgot to check debt/equity ratios and that's why those same guys are now furloughed and working at Home Depot or in the TSA. If they had made the better and smarter LONG TERM decision and got hired at SWA, they would now be in Captain upgrade training at one of the highest paying 737 operators in the world and flying new airplanes instead of working at Home Depot or the TSA.

 

[satpak77]

Hey satpak77: The only thing you "own" is a big mouth. Take my handle off of your signature.

dude you are back, please post something abuot how Air Midwest or Midwest Express or whoever you work at is better than SWA or FDX, etc etc

please continue to stimulate me

 

[Lawman]

dude you are back, please post something abuot how Air Midwest or Midwest Express or whoever you work at is better than SWA or FDX, etc etc

please continue to stimulate me

Yeah, Dude. Hey Dude. Wow dude. Shut up dude.

 

[miles otoole]

Yeah, Dude. Hey Dude. Wow dude. Shut up dude.

Yo Chuck. What up?

 

[koko nw]

>>>If it was so great then why didn't anyone want to come here when the legacy's were hiring? <<<

They were chasing the higher pay rates, that's true, but they forgot to check debt/equity ratios and that's why those same guys are now furloughed and working at Home Depot or in the TSA. If they had made the better and smarter LONG TERM decision and got hired at SWA, they would now be in Captain upgrade training at one of the highest paying 737 operators in the world and flying new airplanes instead of working at Home Depot or the TSA.

Did he hit a sore spot with ya? When did you get hired? How was the D/E ratio back then compared to the majors?

Does it make you feel good to crap on top the 9000+ legacy guy's/gal's with the Home Depot/TSA remark? Dude those folks, me included LOST their jobs.

Depending on when you where hired the "better/smarter" choice you alluded to could have been any number of airlines. Congrats on your "smarter/better" choice, enjoy it. Evidently the tens of thousands of applicants at the legacies could have used your crystal ball.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

>>>If it was so great then why didn't anyone want to come here when the legacy's were hiring? <<<

They were chasing the higher pay rates, that's true, but they forgot to check debt/equity ratios and that's why those same guys are now furloughed and working at Home Depot or in the TSA. If they had made the better and smarter LONG TERM decision and got hired at SWA, they would now be in Captain upgrade training at one of the highest paying 737 operators in the world and flying new airplanes instead of working at Home Depot or the TSA.

Some were chasing high pay. Others wanted a stable job with a domicile where they wanted to live. The SWA choice was smart in the late '90s if you understood the profit sharing and extra flying income potential. Most, myself included, didn't see all the facts but am fortunate to be here now.

International is still the most profitable flying and possession of international routes attracted many applicants who thought it would ensure the future of said legacies. We just didn't see how the domestic side would take such a beating.

Your chest thumping about "highest paying 737 operator" gives me the chills. Weren't we saying this about UAL and DAL a short time ago???