SWA to speed up Airtran integration.....article

[CaptAntoineMack]

Dude you kill me.

Someone with only a HS diploma ranting about law and torts.

My question is, do you actually believe what you spew?

I know. Right?

There is nothing discriminatory about rewarding production. Calling in sick when you are sick is a good choice. Working in the reserves is a choice. FMLA is a choice. Giving away flying so you can establish yourself in another line of work so you don't have to step foot on SWA property is a choice.

 

[Dash Power]

Giving away flying so you can establish yourself in another line of work so you don't have to step foot on SWA property is a choice.

LOL!!

That got a good coffee spray on the laptop!

 

[Flash]

So the unicorns have left the barn and it's being run by regular airline management? As long as you know what and who your dealing with, that's fine.

 

[Lear70]

So the unicorns have left the barn and it's being run by regular airline management? As long as you know what and who your dealing with, that's fine.

Yeah, that was the biggest shock I think. Once I realized what was really what behind the smiles and frosty adult beverages, I've been able to wrap my head around how it all went down in the end.

That said, we have 2 1/2 more years to go... waiting for the other, other, other, OTHER shoe to drop. lol

 

[Kharma Police]

SWAPA needs to get ready to start playing traditional labor relations hardball. The company certainly is.

Ironic that SWA hired one of your ALPA heroes to play hardball against labor.

 

[Dash Power]

Yeah, that was the biggest shock I think. Once I realized what was really what behind the smiles and frosty adult beverages, I've been able to wrap my head around how it all went down in the end.

That said, we have 2 1/2 more years to go... waiting for the other, other, other, OTHER shoe to drop. lol

Am I the only one that is picking up Lears passive aggression towards SWA?

 

[dicko]

Vichy ?

 

[Lear70]

Am I the only one that is picking up Lears passive aggression towards SWA?

Probably, because I'm not being passive-aggressive.

I very clearly stated my unhappiness with the new Pass Bureau policy, and I've very clearly expressed my dissatisfaction in the past with the way the SLi was handled by management.

I'd say that's pretty open, which isn't passive-aggressive in any way, shape, or form, but thanks for chiming in. You take care now, mkay? (THAT is passive-aggressive sarcasm, by the way).

 

[CaptAntoineMack]

Am I the only one that is picking up Lears passive aggression towards SWA?

No. You are not.

 

[CaptAntoineMack]

Probably, because I'm not being passive-aggressive.

I very clearly stated my unhappiness with the new Pass Bureau policy, and I've very clearly expressed my dissatisfaction in the past with the way the SLi was handled by management.

I'd say that's pretty open, which isn't passive-aggressive in any way, shape, or form, but thanks for chiming in. You take care now, mkay? (THAT is passive-aggressive sarcasm, by the way).

Case in point.

Are you going to work with PCL_128?

 

[Kharma Police]

No. You are not.

Why do you creepy dorks care what mood he's in?

 

[Lear70]

Case in point.

That's not case-in-point... He accused me of being passively aggressive towards Southwest when, in point of fact, I've been pretty open about my unhappiness on many different levels. Been trying to let it go, but when something new comes out like it did today, giving you guys something of ours without reciprocating for us, it doesn't help fix that now does it?

Passive-Aggressive towards some of the idiots on this board...? That's another issue entirely. Some of you people really make it a part-time job trying to stir the pot. I have neither the patience nor the time for that.

Are you going to work with PCL_128?

I already work with PCL. Have for years. What are you trying to ask?

 

[Remington]

So is everything between AT and SWA pilots cooling down?

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

It would be SWAPA's fault for not negotiating the benefit into their CBA in the first place.

Maybe SWAPA doesn't want to spend negotiating capital on something as stupid as buddy passes.

 

[Dash Power]

So is everything between AT and SWA pilots cooling down?

What do you think?

There are no problems on the line. Just the, and I quote Lear 70, "Idiots" on this board crying about the little things.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

So is everything between AT and SWA pilots cooling down?

What you are seeing here is nothing more than keyboard tough guys talking smack and acting childish. (Me included)

I don't know if things are cooling down or not. But what I can say is that all the AAI crews I have run into have been nothing but nice and I have gone out of my way to extend the same courtesy. The vast majority of us are simply pawns in this game. What would the purpose serve for me to get mad at an AAI pilot? They didn't have any hand in this acquisition. They just fly the metal. That being the case I have no axe to grind with them at all.

 

[Lear70]

So is everything between AT and SWA pilots cooling down?

If it weren't for some of the pot stirrers who attack individual people rather than the issues,,,?

Then yes, it seems to be cooling down. Most people are in the "acceptance" phase and trying to find their happy place, with varying degrees of success, sometimes varying day to day.

 

[maxblast72]

Lear70 and PCL128 will never admit they help cost the AirTran pilot group hundreds of millions of dollars and alot of beneficial fences that would have helped blunt some of the seniority list pain. Not only did their actions cost the AirTran pilot group alot of money and QOL, but their actions also caused a DFR lawsuit that could end up costing ALPA tens of millions.

A simple pilot vote on SIA #1 would have been the proper way to poll the AirTran pilots (not having MEC reps try and do some unscientific polling through emails). A pilot vote also would have removed almost all chance of ALPA getting sued for breach of DFR.

 

[Kharma Police]

Lear70 and PCL128 will never admit they help cost the AirTran pilot group hundreds of millions of dollars and alot of beneficial fences that would have helped blunt some of the seniority list pain. Not only did their actions cost the AirTran pilot group alot of money and QOL, but their actions also caused a DFR lawsuit that could end up costing ALPA tens of millions.

A simple pilot vote on SIA #1 would have been the proper way to poll the AirTran pilots (not having MEC reps try and do some unscientific polling through emails). A pilot vote also would have removed almost all chance of ALPA getting sued for breach of DFR.

Sad, but true. I would also point out that Gary Kelly should have never signed an agreement that he never intended to follow.

 

[fletch717]

Lear70 and PCL128 will never admit they help cost the AirTran pilot group hundreds of millions of dollars and alot of beneficial fences that would have helped blunt some of the seniority list pain. Not only did their actions cost the AirTran pilot group alot of money and QOL, but their actions also caused a DFR lawsuit that could end up costing ALPA tens of millions.

A simple pilot vote on SIA #1 would have been the proper way to poll the AirTran pilots (not having MEC reps try and do some unscientific polling through emails). A pilot vote also would have removed almost all chance of ALPA getting sued for breach of DFR.

And the other side will never admit that threatening our jobs to vote on an SLI that they used management to ram down our throats, instead of a Real negotiated SLI or arbitration ruined a lot of our careers and cost us millions. That is the sad truth.