SWA, The Street's Love Fades

[mdf]

Everyone is trying to get Mr. Kelly to jump out of his box. I see him sticking to the business plan, and doing what Southwest has always done. Wall Street wants you to run up a bunch of debt, declare bankruptcy, and stiff everyone you owe money to. Then they want you to come out of bankruptcy with a new stock symbol so they can cash in on the IPO. It's all about the pump and dump to them. They are all probably selling their Legacy stock right now while buying LUV at a discount. I'm sure they will be at club tonight laughing over brandy and cigars.

 

[MRYFLYER]

"Short haul flying" example

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA472

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA2553

more "short haul flying" examples

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL1117

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL2462

Short haul ie 737 flying. Doesn't matter where you are going in it, it is uncomfortable, noisy and not that great a flying airplane. I don't know about the new ones but the 200's, 300's and 500's were not where you want to spend a long day. It is cramped, hot in the summer and cold in the winter-due to the door 1l being almost in the cockpit and that single pack on the APU was really lame for any use of a/c on the ground. What I love is that SWA has to dumb down the airplane because they are too cheap to adapt to new tech. Round dials on a glass display? How retro.

 

[SWA/FO]

I don't know about the new ones but the 200's, 300's and 500's were not where you want to spend a long day

Dude, Its about making money. Its about the 5th and the 20th of every month. Most guys at other carriers go for the bigger planes cus they happen to pay more. At SWA its all the same, baby! $$$$ I'm not f^cking the airplane, I'm just flying it.

 

[MRYFLYER]

Dude, Its about making money. Its about the 5th and the 20th of every month. Most guys at other carriers go for the bigger planes cus they happen to pay more. At SWA its all the same, baby! $$$$ I'm not f^cking the airplane, I'm just flying it.

You represent the change in the industry. Back in the day we hired pilots that like flying airplanes. Most of have small airplanes of our own that we tinkered with. Today it is the crowd that does this job without a care for what is strapped behind them. No finese on the controls, brakes or idea.

I still would not want to fly a 737 with the single pack operation on the APU. PP design by Boeing on that one.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Short haul ie 737 flying. Doesn't matter where you are going in it, it is uncomfortable, noisy and not that great a flying airplane. I don't know about the new ones but the 200's, 300's and 500's were not where you want to spend a long day. It is cramped, hot in the summer and cold in the winter-due to the door 1l being almost in the cockpit and that single pack on the APU was really lame for any use of a/c on the ground. What I love is that SWA has to dumb down the airplane because they are too cheap to adapt to new tech. Round dials on a glass display? How retro.

If you work at SWA and you don't like how the airplanes are operated, you should know who you can talk to about that....

If you don't work at SWA and don't like how the airplanes are operated....why do you let it bother you?

Tejas

 

[SWA/FO]

You represent the change in the industry. Back in the day we hired pilots that like flying airplanes. Most of have small airplanes of our own that we tinkered with. Today it is the crowd that does this job without a care for what is strapped behind them. No finese on the controls, brakes or idea.

I still would not want to fly a 737 with the single pack operation on the APU. PP design by Boeing on that one.

2 pack operation on the -700. I'm the smoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooothest flying SWA/FO out there. I didn't say I didn't care about my peps, just that I don't care what I fly.

 

[jball2]

Dude- You are awsome! Pump him up.... go tigers!

 

[Bake]

No finesse? Rough flying? YOu must have have been on my plane when it was my leg. MRYflyer, what are you doing in the back of a red bellied money maker? Too broke to fly elsewhere? Let me guess what's on your computer desk. A cheap BOX of wine, AOPA mag from 1980, a picture of the one that got away, the JCPenny catalog (cuz your too cheap for PBoy), and a bottle of olive oil (extra virgin) to smooth out the wrinkles so to speak. Livin the Dream ain't ya ole man.

 

[Double Shot]

2 pack operation on the -700. I'm the smoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooothest flying SWA/FO out there. I didn't say I didn't care about my peps, just that I don't care what I fly.

NO WAY!!! I am the smoothest!

 

[BVT94]

You guys figured it out yet?

 

[GuppyWN]

MRFLYER, It all makes sense now. You're a pi$$ed off UAL dude.

Gup

 

[MRYFLYER]

MRFLYER, It all makes sense now. You're a pi$$ed off UAL dude.

Gup

You are almost right. I am very happy. However, I do see some positives industry wide for the legacy carriers for a change.

 

[Whataburger]

MRFLYER, It all makes sense now. You're a pi$$ed off UAL dude.

Gup

Sounds like a USair dude. I mean Cactus.

 

[Bosley]

You are almost right. I am very happy. However, I do see some positives industry wide for the legacy carriers for a change.

He's right. Look at how united was able to shed its liabilities and pensions in bankruptcy! horray for UAL management! They're brilliant!

 

[Lowpayisgreat]

Real Question

Not flame bait so if you don't have a real input, keep your pie hole shut. SWA with a non-fuel CASM of 6.68 seems to be high (higher then B6, F9, AAI, UAL etc). How will the company compete as the fule hedges dwindle. Not flame bait. Is the system more eff. etc or what? What does everyone invision. I only can forsee small pay cuts in 3 years, expansion into the mexican/central American market to get more winter leizure flyers, and paying more for medical and dental and maybe some work rule changes. Lets here some educated ideas not name calling or airline bashing. SWA guys you work their what do you see, hear or think will happen.

PS This will be a real test on some peoples smarts.