SWA tactics on the ramp and taxiways

[crashpad]

Sy-bill, could you pic a different avatar. It's a little confusing since I thought I was reading Ty's posts.
I did'nt read the past 6 pages, but it's impressive Ty can still generate this much 'enthusiasm'. I'm starting to get interested in this board again.
Congrats on the upgrade.

 

[Sy-bill]

Sy-bill, could you pic a different avatar. It's a little confusing since I thought I was reading Ty's posts.
I did'nt read the past 6 pages, but it's impressive Ty can still generate this much 'enthusiasm'. I'm starting to get interested in this board again.
Congrats on the upgrade.

Ok. No problem. And read the last six pages and you'll see that maybe it wasn't a good thing about Ty baby's upgrade. Whooosh. right to his head.

 

[crashpad]

I was thinking of a Frank Zappa avatar, but that's nice.
Actually, I can't tell the difference in Ty pre or post upgrade. Then again, the characters on this board are like All Star Westlers: you're either a big fan, or throw beer cups.

 

[Sy-bill]

I was thinking of a Frank Zappa avatar, but that's nice.
Actually, I can't tell the difference in Ty pre or post upgrade. Then again, the characters on this board are like All Star Westlers: you're either a big fan, or throw beer cups.

I like your take on the characters on this board. Right now I'm throwing beer cups.....at Ty baby.

Took your suggestion on the avatar. Mr. Moderator took my other one away.

 

[ivauir]

Its been my experience that the best way to end up late is to show up early,,,and have to give em the "well folks it looks like we took em by surprise" riga-ma-roll,,,and sit on the holding pad or at a different gate with the door shut.

Not a Problem at SWA.

 

[ivauir]

3 Months ago in BWI we were told by ground control that our sequence was the A320 (I think a Cactus, but I can't remember) and to follow them to 15R. As we approached a merge in two taxiways we saw two SW jets waiting for the A320 and us to go by. As the 320 passed in front of them the first 737 "gunned" the power and cut us off. We slammed the breaks on, throwing our FA's against some seats as they did their demos. As we started to taxi again, the second SW jet did the same thing. We questioned ground (who had given everyone their sequence) and after a LONG pause, the controller came back and said "Oh, I guess they changed the sequence". "They" must have been that other controlling agency who gives contradictary clearances from the actual ATC controllers. This was a dangerous maneuver which could have resulted in injuries to our flight attendants and/or a collision. Yes, this kind of thing does happen.

Now, I don't think this is something SW tells their pilots to do to gain a couple minutes in the departure line. Rather, I think a couple of "cowboy" captains decided on their own that they were tired of waiting for some sequence they didn't understand. (I wish I knew why ATC does everything they do). Every airline has its "cowboy" captains. So to say this doesn't happen is ignorant. I just don't think it is a conspiracy by an airline. 99% of the pilots flying are phenomenal. Unfortunately, the 1% sometimes ruin it for the rest.

Cheers.

Contact professional standards with the details (dates and tailnumbers or callsigns). My guess is that there is an honest explanation, but if not there are 4 pilots with some 'splanin to do. PM me for contact info. Same offer to you Ty.

BTW got cut off by AA, US Air and Delta in Vegas last night ... ground was suffering from rectal hypoxia, but good SA by the crews kept all of the tin separated and we still under flew our block time

 

[Ty Webb]

Sy-bill, could you pic a different avatar. It's a little confusing since I thought I was reading Ty's posts.
I did'nt read the past 6 pages, but it's impressive Ty can still generate this much 'enthusiasm'. I'm starting to get interested in this board again.
Congrats on the upgrade.

Thanks . . . unfortunately, it seems to have unleashed an outburst of jealousy and panic in Sy-bill, who apparently doesn't have an original thought in his head (he's now using my former avatar, Frank Zappa).

I usually only get stalked by flight attendants . . . . . most of them female.

 

[Mugs]

Hey Ty:

Let's keep in mind that there are many fine folks over at SWA. I think the problems you have seen can be traced down to just one (or two maybe) bad apples:


http://www.nakedcowboy.com/

 

[Hobiehawker]

Thanks . . . unfortunately, it seems to have unleashed an outburst of jealousy and panic in Sy-bill, who apparently doesn't have an original thought in his head (he's now using my former avatar, Frank Zappa).

I usually only get stalked by flight attendants . . . . . most of them female.

I think you have mistaken with being stalked with being mocked.

And although your narsasistic mind can't recognize it, being mocked is not a good thing.

I found his method very witty and appropriate. He sure is stirring your pot isn't he.

 

[Sy-bill]

Sorry crashpad. Ty baby couldn't let it go again without being an a$$.

Back to mocking.

If you read the material its very easy to tell the difference between Ty baby and everyone else.

 

[SWAdude]

Contact professional standards with the details (dates and tailnumbers or callsigns). My guess is that there is an honest explanation, but if not there are 4 pilots with some 'splanin to do. PM me for contact info. Same offer to you Ty.

BTW got cut off by AA, US Air and Delta in Vegas last night ... ground was suffering from rectal hypoxia, but good SA by the crews kept all of the tin separated and we still under flew our block time

If one has an issue with an air traffic control situation with another carrier there is a program in effect that one can file a complaint. We have forms in our lounge that one would use and although I haven't looked I think they are online with the FAA.

Respectfully,

SWAdude

 

[learflyer]

I have one also,

in MHT, the taxi way goes to the end ofcourse and has a 90 deg turn, well there is a 45 deg taxiway adjacent to it going directly to the runway end.

well we taxied out first, 5 min. and got to the end at the 90, and called in ready to go, at that moment out of the blue, there was SWA at v1 approaching us and called the tower that they were ready to go, they already had turned for the 45 deg taxiway. the tower replied to SWA, taxi into position and hold. I responded that we were ready in sequence before SW approached the end. A SW pilot laughed on the radio, no voice , just a laugh.

then tower cleared them to take off. we eventually were cleared to go, before we called to taxi out, I asked is this standard practice here for SW, and was there a need for SW to go first, ie wheels up time, flow control, etc.?

there was no responce from tower except have a good day, airbourne i asked for the tower managers name, of course i was pissed now. he said he wasn't on duty, have a good day....


what kind of sh/t is that?

I'm with you. I've seen the same thing from SWA in OAK.

 

[SWAdude]

I'm with you. I've seen the same thing from SWA in OAK.

If you have an issue with another carrier, file a complaint to the FAA. I had an incident within the last six months with another carrier and talked to the chief pilot about it and he said they had a meeting with the FAA about the number of increased incidents that SWA has experienced about unprofessional behavior on the ground from other carriers since this recent downturn in the industry. The FAA said they were aware of this and encouraged us to file complaints. So I did. And so did the guy I was flying with. Haven't heard anything back nor do I expect to.

If we have some guys that are doing what you accuse them of, it needs to be brought to their attention. Remember though, the FAA sees the whole system as it is, and if its just sour grapes, it will reflect on your airline equally as bad.

Respectfully,

SWAdude

 

[JB Bus Drvr]

SWAdude,

You might be a little off the mark by saying to file a complaint with the FAA. As a former employee of that "fine" organization, a Hotline complaint comes down and it's priority. Everything stops until the complaint is investigated, LOIs sent out and everybody's day is ruined. It's a powerful tool that tends to make everybody's life miserable and should be used as a last resort. A call between respective carriers professional standards groups yeilds greater results and better harmony than to involve the FED. If that doesn't work, by all means call the Hotline.

 

[Wingsweep]

Try this...

Hey Krusty, Learflyer, Ty,

Try a big waaaaaaaaaaa! Maybe that will help a little bit. What a bunch of cry babies! Sheesh.