Widow's Son
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>>Canceled flight no pay<<
First of all, that is crap and is another example of why this TA is going to pass because the fear mongers are pulling wild accusations out of their intestines that are slowing getting squelched with the truth.
As far as canceled flight pay goes, you cannot make less than what you were originally scheduled for or what you actually fly. That has always been the case.
What the TA does is codify something that has actually been scheduling practice for decades, but not spelled out officially in the contract.
Here is the deal. On those rare occasions that a massive weather system has melted down large parts of the system and crews are sitting around while scheds tries to rebuild the system and get people flying again, they had situations where they thought that the weather would improve or the airport would re-open or whatever at a certain time so they would start adding trips to guy's lines in an effort to get things moving. Well, as is often the case, things would get delayed even more so they would scratch that first plan and try a different one. Or for example, an early decision would be to cancel flights up to a certain hour and then the weather doesn't improve so the timeline is extended and flights they thought were going to happen get canceled as well.
The bottom line is often in those melt down situations guys can have their schedules changed several times during the period of trying to get things running again.
What happened was we actually had guys who had two or three flights that were put on their schedules and for a given day and then the flights got canceled and replaced with other flights and these guys thought that they should be paid FOR ALL OF THEM even if they overlapped each other making it impossible to fly them, or were on their board for only a few minutes before being changed. Those guys were idiots and were just trying to play games with the contract, so even though the policy isn't changing at all, they are simply codifying long standing practice into the new contract.
With regard to cancellations, we can still never earn less than what we were originally scheduled for or what we actually fly as has been our policy for decades.
Another example is the wild rumor of sitting the last reserve block for free. This is another one that simply isn't true.
The No voters had a chance in the early days of the contract to defeat it when all of the rumors and innuendos were at their peak, but the longer the process takes, the more those inaccuracies will be clarified and the more chance the TA has of passing.
It is far from perfect, but it will pass. There is no doubt about that.
First of all, that is crap and is another example of why this TA is going to pass because the fear mongers are pulling wild accusations out of their intestines that are slowing getting squelched with the truth.
As far as canceled flight pay goes, you cannot make less than what you were originally scheduled for or what you actually fly. That has always been the case.
What the TA does is codify something that has actually been scheduling practice for decades, but not spelled out officially in the contract.
Here is the deal. On those rare occasions that a massive weather system has melted down large parts of the system and crews are sitting around while scheds tries to rebuild the system and get people flying again, they had situations where they thought that the weather would improve or the airport would re-open or whatever at a certain time so they would start adding trips to guy's lines in an effort to get things moving. Well, as is often the case, things would get delayed even more so they would scratch that first plan and try a different one. Or for example, an early decision would be to cancel flights up to a certain hour and then the weather doesn't improve so the timeline is extended and flights they thought were going to happen get canceled as well.
The bottom line is often in those melt down situations guys can have their schedules changed several times during the period of trying to get things running again.
What happened was we actually had guys who had two or three flights that were put on their schedules and for a given day and then the flights got canceled and replaced with other flights and these guys thought that they should be paid FOR ALL OF THEM even if they overlapped each other making it impossible to fly them, or were on their board for only a few minutes before being changed. Those guys were idiots and were just trying to play games with the contract, so even though the policy isn't changing at all, they are simply codifying long standing practice into the new contract.
With regard to cancellations, we can still never earn less than what we were originally scheduled for or what we actually fly as has been our policy for decades.
Another example is the wild rumor of sitting the last reserve block for free. This is another one that simply isn't true.
The No voters had a chance in the early days of the contract to defeat it when all of the rumors and innuendos were at their peak, but the longer the process takes, the more those inaccuracies will be clarified and the more chance the TA has of passing.
It is far from perfect, but it will pass. There is no doubt about that.
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